The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[Not Afraid]

I heard about 5 minutes of a Q&A with dear George yesterday and literally had to turn it off. I would rather have listened to Ruth Seymore pitch for funds that hear the President not make sense. When will he get that 9/11 is not justification for the current war?

[Nephythys]

I'm glad someone understands that terrorism was not just a 9/11 event- and knows that more needs to be done.

[wendybeth]

I'm glad I'm not so frightened as to be so quick to give up my liberties. Sign away yours if you will, but leave mine the **** alone. As far as I'm concerned, the terrorists win when you give up all that you are supposed to stand for. They point to us and say "See? They are not free- their government spies on them and detains them and withholds all those precious rights they hold so dear". Some role model for democracy we are.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

I'm glad someone understands that terrorism was not just a 9/11 event- and knows that more needs to be done.

I think we are all intelligent enough to understand that terrorism isn't just a 9/11 event. I would even bet that we all agree that more needs to be done. What we don't agree on is whether or not anything has actually been done to make us safer, or if our methods of fighting terrorism are even remotely effective or just making the problem worse.

How does failing to secure the border make us safer? How did not securing the explosives when we invaded Iraq make us safer? How does turning Iraq into a theocracy make us safer? How does not catching Bin Laden make us safer? How does diverting homeland security funding make us safer?

[Nephythys]

I have not lost a single damn liberty- and have not touched anything of yours.

Thanks

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

I have not lost a single damn liberty- and have not touched anything of yours.

Thanks

Neither you nor anyone in your family was put in an internment camp in WWII, so that must not have been an infringement of civil liberties either, right?

[Not Afraid]

At least he conceeded that Sadam did not have a part in 9/11. About time. But, he still had a fear mongering response.

Oh, and the Katrina discussion was just GROSS! Get off your ass and make something happen! It's been a YEAR for Christ's sake!

He frustrates the living HELL out of me. I've disliked presidents in th past, but I've NEVER felt the complete and total disgust I feel the George W Bush.

[wendybeth]

Well, if you or anyone in your family ever get detained indefinitely for no given reason by the authorities, or if you are ever under surveillance by the government and your private conversations and records gone through, I'll bet you'll not be so happy about your chosen leader. Maybe by then the next leader will be a lib- would you feel good about them being able to spy on your political activities then? It works so long as the party you belong to is in control, when the leadership changes it may be more problematic, depending what the new leadership is looking for.

[Not Afraid]

It's all about me.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

What Wendybeth says. 'Cause she's got the smart mouth and the intelligence to back it up.