The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[Nephythys]

I personally think it is incredibly arrogant and disrespectful to dis on Iraq when they have worked so hard and come so far- every vote, election, decision made by them to get their country back deserves to be treated with decency and respect- to try to undermine and ignore their accomplishments by saying their trial of Hussein was nothing more than a puppet show by the US is- well-outrageous.

It's just more US bashing-

[Nephythys]

Ah- here is part of the entire world-

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Of course I expect some people to simply dismiss it out of hand due to the source.....

[scaeagles]

I don't see it as US bashing - I see it as Iraqi bashing.

That aside, it is ridiculous to think that Shiites didn't want him dead. The US didn't need to apply pressure for him to be executed, or to be found guilty.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I don't see it as US bashing - I see it as Iraqi bashing.

That aside, it is ridiculous to think that Shiites didn't want him dead. The US didn't need to apply pressure for him to be executed, or to be found guilty.

I guess I can see how you see it that way- I can see it as both. It insults the efforts of the Iraqis and insults their justice system. It insults us as well- as if we are just controlling it all-and it insults them as if they have no ability to govern themselves.

It is also blatantly convenient that many show respect and support for the national soverignty of other nations as long as they are doing something they agree with- but as soon as they do not- well then, they are just US puppets.

[Nephythys]

ah- here is some puppet work- a US attorney attempting to file on Saddams behalf in a US court- now there's respect for Iraqi soverignty.

At the same time, a U.S. district judge refused a request to stay the execution.

Attorney Nicholas Gilman said in an application for a restraining order, filed Friday in U.S. District Court in Washington, that a stay would allow Hussein "to be informed of his rights and take whatever action he can and may wish to pursue."

Haddad had called Gilman's filing "rubbish," and said, "It will not delay carrying out the sentence," which he called "final."

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[Gemini Cricket]

I'm anti-death penalty.
I would have liked to see him rot in a jail cell for the rest of his life not talking to a single soul ever again...

[Morrigoon]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

I'm anti-death penalty.
I would have liked to see him rot in a jail cell for the rest of his life not talking to a single soul ever again...

Ah, but that would amount to mental torture. So damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[Alex]

I'm not really a proponent of the death penalty, but if anybody deserves it then people like Saddam Hussein do. And regardless of the quality of the trial I don't really harbor any doubt as to his crimes.

It was faster than Pinochet and slower than Ceauşescu.

I would have preferred a more dignified proceeding but that would have required removing him and trying him internationally which wouldn't be great either.

I do think they should have stayed the execution and allowed him to be tried on more charges though. Not necessarily every possible one, but more of them.

[innerSpaceman]

Ah, one less evil tyranical bloodthirsty dictator in the world. Feh.













now, what about the rest of them?




Let's go get 'em.

And when we catch 'em, let's burn them!



But first we'll stone them, then we'll burn them.


Then we'll hang them.





And then drown them.

[CoasterMatt]

I'm still miffed they didn't put it on pay per view