The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[MouseWife]

Oh, isn't that a grand idea. What about the issue of people dropping babies inside the U.S. so that they can be citizens and then collect monies for them? {border town resident speaking here} Won't this only make it that much worse? Not only the $5,000 to kick things off but then also the social services provided for them? And, I don't know if it would work if the parents would claim it as they file their income tax, some how making sure their parents actually are citizens or something to that effect.

What a mess and you can't really blame those who take advantage of the situation; the loopholes need to be fixed and certain actions not tolerated {like the woman who hid in the church and then said the U.S. was unkind or something....even after it was revealed that she was in the country illegally, worked with a fake social security number, basically disrespecting our laws and then she wants respect?}

Sorry if that is off topic, I only read the last couple of posts....

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

So Hillary wants to buy votes at 5000 per baby, and Edwards thinks that soon all young African-American men will be dead or in prison. As noted in the link, there are more African-American men in college than in prison, and of the typical college ages of 18-24, the number of African-American men in college vs. those in prison is 4 to 1. Can you say race baiting trash?

No.

Better data.

Even assuming that the ratio in the National Review article is correct, the ratio of white men in college to white men in prison would be about 32 to one. Common sense suggests that it's far higher.

[scaeagles]

In the data you site, there are 3.1% of the African American male population is in prison. This is a far, far cry from all being dead or in prison. It is race baiting, completely and totally.

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

In the data you site, there are 3.1% of the African American male population is in prison. This is a far, far cry from all being dead or in prison. It is race baiting, completely and totally.

True, but it's still not a good statistic, and the sevenfold disparity between whites and blacks is not de minimis. Plus, although I don't have the statistic at my fingertips, I believe the more alarming--if one is disposed to be alarmed--statistic is the number/percentage of black men under supervision, i.e., in prison, on probation or on parole.

[innerSpaceman]

Why would anyone give a fig about anything any candidate proposes while campaigning for any office? I mean, sure you can use it as a guide to gauge that person's principles ... but taking it as an indication of what that person will do, or even propose to do if elected is simply not based remotely in the real world of what happens.

[JWBear]

I'm terrified of Hillary getting the nomination. If she does, it all but guarantees a Republican win in the general election.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by JWBear

I'm terrified of Hillary getting the nomination. If she does, it all but guarantees a Republican win in the general election.

It would sure make a true republican out of me in a Jiffy.

[wendybeth]

I'm going against my Contrary to Oprah* campaign and going with Obama. I just can't stand Hillary, although it would be amusing to see the First Husband and all it's resultant complications. (Such as how would he be addressed? Mr. President is the norm for retired presidents, but ....? Would he bake cookies?)



*I automatically reject anything recommended by Oprah, unless I discovered it first or didn't know she had already applied the Oprah stamp of approval.

[Ghoulish Delight]

I'm right there with you, WB. Everything Hillary does is entirely reactionary for the sake of furthering her political career, can't stand her and think she'd be a terrible President. Obama, thus far, has struck me as the most straight forward and genuine (as politicians go) candidate in the whole field and I think he'd make a great President.

What's really pissing me off is that most Democrats seem to be once again falling into, "But which one's more electable in the general election" debate. Yeah, 'cause that strategy worked out great in '00 and '04

[Strangler Lewis]

Just be patient. It'll be Richardson v. Huckabee.