The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 461

scaeagles · 09-10-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

If you make the decision to exclude your 8 year old from the accompanying lesson plan, and she (she, right?) asks, "Dad, why am I not doing the same homework as everyone else in my class?" would yuo answer honsetly with, "Because the assignment might include opinions that we don't agree with and don't think you should be learning about right now." If so, what do you think that teaches her about hearing opposing opinions?

It is a she. My kids are Heather (15), Jake (10), and Megan (8 on the 17th).

My answer would be "Because it was an assignment on some stuff I was concerned about and the parents were excluded from the process. We can look at the stuff and talk about it together, though.". That is honest.

What that would teach her is opposing opinions are fine and I'm interested in what she's doing (already do homework with her nightly, so that's not really an issue), and some things are important enough that I want to do it with her 100%.

Betty · 09-10-2009, 01:59 PM

After reading a few pages here it sure seems like everyone is ganging up on scaeagles. I just wanted to say that I really enjoy the discussion going on and I hope that scaeagles doesn't get his feelings hurt (or however you want to phrase that) by being singled out a bit.

It's a rare message board where everyone can actually discuss differing viewpoints and not have flaming and/or trolling going on.

/I <3 you guys.

scaeagles · 09-10-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Betty

After reading a few pages here it sure seems like everyone is ganging up on scaeagles. I just wanted to say that I really enjoy the discussion going on and I hope that scaeagles doesn't get his feelings hurt (or however you want to phrase that) by being singled out a bit.

It's a rare message board where everyone can actually discuss differing viewpoints and not have flaming and/or trolling going on.

/I <3 you guys.

I'm used to it. Happens all the time around here.

FYI, Betty, I enjoy it around here and it is very infrequent that I feel belittled, and to get ones feelings hurt one must first have feelings.

I usually am challenged to defend my positions, which I enjoy, and there are a whole bunch of things I've actually changed my mind on from discussions here, and other things I am more convinced of than ever that I'm right.

Strangler Lewis · 09-10-2009, 01:59 PM

Funny story from a friend of mine: his sister married a Jewish feller and converted and they had a kid. They were religious but not super religious, but when it came time to send their daugher to high school, they sent her to an Orthodox Jewish school. (I don't know if she had been going to Jewish day schools all along.) The main goal was to shelter her from some of the more challenging aspects of public high school. But . . .

the kid drank the Kool-Aid. "We're not religious enough. Dad, you should grow your beard, etc." The kid got herself emancipated at 16, so she could live with a truly religious family.

Gemini Cricket · 09-10-2009, 02:15 PM

I'm sure Leo's fine. I'm just trying to stoke the flames of his inner liberal fireplace.

scaeagles · 09-10-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

I'm sure Leo's fine. I'm just trying to stoke the flames of his inner liberal fireplace.

That used to be MBC's job. I feel so....so.....rejected.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-10-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

I'm sure Leo's fine. I'm just trying to stoke the flames of his inner liberal fireplace.

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

That used to be MBC's job. I feel so....so.....rejected.

You're mistaken, MBC was trying to get some flaming liberal inside of you. Subtle, but substantial, difference.

Motorboat Cruiser · 09-10-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

You're mistaken, MBC was trying to get some flaming liberal inside of you. Subtle, but substantial, difference.

Precisely.

BarTopDancer · 09-10-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

You're mistaken, MBC was trying to get some flaming liberal inside of you. Subtle, but substantial, difference.

From a discussion on right-wing paranoia politics to toasters.

Only on LoT.

flippyshark · 09-10-2009, 03:15 PM

All well and good, but, what I can't get my head around is, even before they changed the lesson plan, was it really THAT BAD? It seemed thoroughly innocuous to me, just boilerplate elementary school civics. (Heck, I was assigned to write a letter to President Nixon, along with the rest of my classmates, back in the fist grade. Pretty similar stuff - tell the president what you like best about the country, what you want to see happen in the future - I'm sure we all wrote that we wanted a longer recess and Slurpees in the school cafeteria.) If I've understood correctly, the contentious line, which was changed, was "write a letter to yourself about how you might help the president," and that even in the original version, this, in context with the surrounding material, clearly meant "help the president realize his goal of increasing the number of college graduates." Now, really, what the F is wrong with that?

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Betty Kicking up my heels! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Silver State Posts: 3,783	After reading a few pages here it sure seems like everyone is ganging up on scaeagles. I just wanted to say that I really enjoy the discussion going on and I hope that scaeagles doesn't get his feelings hurt (or however you want to phrase that) by being singled out a bit. It's a rare message board where everyone can actually discuss differing viewpoints and not have flaming and/or trolling going on. /I <3 you guys. __________________ Nee Stell Thue
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Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	Funny story from a friend of mine: his sister married a Jewish feller and converted and they had a kid. They were religious but not super religious, but when it came time to send their daugher to high school, they sent her to an Orthodox Jewish school. (I don't know if she had been going to Jewish day schools all along.) The main goal was to shelter her from some of the more challenging aspects of public high school. But . . . the kid drank the Kool-Aid. "We're not religious enough. Dad, you should grow your beard, etc." The kid got herself emancipated at 16, so she could live with a truly religious family. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I'm sure Leo's fine. I'm just trying to stoke the flames of his inner liberal fireplace.
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flippyshark Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,852	All well and good, but, what I can't get my head around is, even before they changed the lesson plan, was it really THAT BAD? It seemed thoroughly innocuous to me, just boilerplate elementary school civics. (Heck, I was assigned to write a letter to President Nixon, along with the rest of my classmates, back in the fist grade. Pretty similar stuff - tell the president what you like best about the country, what you want to see happen in the future - I'm sure we all wrote that we wanted a longer recess and Slurpees in the school cafeteria.) If I've understood correctly, the contentious line, which was changed, was "write a letter to yourself about how you might help the president," and that even in the original version, this, in context with the surrounding material, clearly meant "help the president realize his goal of increasing the number of college graduates." Now, really, what the F is wrong with that?
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