Could you forgive someone who shot you?

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

Kevy Baby, you're just making the same point I am. You say it is free will because that is what you experience and that is good enough for you. I say it seems like free will but without an underpinning theoretical framework that explains how free will might exist I see no reason to assume it actually is. Unless and until something dramatically changes in our ability to observe and experiment on the universe, we'll never be able to differentiate the two.

If you are saying it is not free will because it cannot be proven that it is free will, and I am saying it is free will (a nebulous notion to be begin with) because it cannot be proven that it isn't, then yes, we are effectively making the same point.