Miscellaneous Movie Musings

[LSPoorEeyorick]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

...he claims that China is on the cutting edge of environmentalism.

Here's the thing about juding a film by its reviews instead of seeing it: things are taken out of context.

The context was: compared to the United States, China is on the cutting edge of environmentalism.

Which is true. As it is currently scheduled, by 2011 California emissions standards will have reached what China's emissions standards currently are today. And that's just California. Not the other 49 states. Most or all of them don't even HAVE an emissions policy.

I'm not saying the man is Churchill, but someday when the ignorance-is-bliss crowd is forced to acknowledge the problem, Al Gore will have been on record since the 1970s trying to address it.

[Alex]

Is China on the cutting edge of environmental cleanliness or just on the cutting edge of environmental regulation? They aren't necessarily the same thing and currently 16 of the 20 most polluted cities in the world (by air quality) are in China.

I haven't seen the movie yet (though I will) so I am not trying to rebut any claim. But China is an incredibly dirty country (particularly on water quality) so I'm just wondering on what basis "cutting edge" is designed. They can have all the laws they want but they're meaninless if, like most signatories to Kyoto, they'll never be enforced or observed.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

The context was: compared to the United States, China is on the cutting edge of environmentalism.

Which is true.

Ditto to what Alex said. China can say what they want. China can make whatever claims they want. But that does not make it so. It simply is not the case that they have a "cleaner" country than we do, or that they are anywhere close to that.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

I'm not saying the man is Churchill, but someday when the ignorance-is-bliss crowd is forced to acknowledge the problem, Al Gore will have been on record since the 1970s trying to address it.

AND he invented the Internet!