What's an antiquated programmer to do? - Page 3

DreadPirateRoberts · 06-26-2006, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

Personally, I never did go in for all that instructor lead stuff...

As a starting point, might I suggest..

Moonliner, you are a genius, in 24 hours, scaeagles can be well on the road to riches.

Ponine · 06-26-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I find it so incredibly hard to believe that any system is worth that much money.

We should get a little group together to whine on this subject. There are a few of us who think that around here. Just not all about SAP

scaeagles · 06-26-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ponine

We should get a little group together to whine on this subject. There are a few of us who think that around here. Just not all about SAP

When my current partner was the financial controller at the place, he documented to corporate how much money the current project (which was his pet and he initiated) had saved in terms of man hours both in accounting and in IT. Only two years in it had already paid for itself. It was phenominal. Something tells me the SAP conversion isn't going to provide the same sort of immediate (or even long term) benefit.

Ponine · 06-26-2006, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Something tells me the SAP conversion isn't going to provide the same sort of immediate (or even long term) benefit.

Hey, thats kind of how I feel about PeopleSoft.

Didn't DLR convert to SAP?

Moonliner · 06-26-2006, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I find it so incredibly hard to believe that any system is worth that much money.

Why do you think they call it "sap"?

scaeagles · 06-26-2006, 09:41 AM

An encouraging update......

My partner (who handles the business end of the business) has done some calling to a few old friends he still has within the organization and the current IT manager (my partner used to be the financial controller for this particular place).

Apparently they are six months to a year from even making the official decision to go SAP, but there is no question what the decision will be. Once the decision is made, they are looking at probably four years of conversion. Their IT department is not going to be consumed by corporate.

Their IT manager was very interested in keeping us around should I learn SAP. The knowledge I have of their systems (crud, I've written 90% of what they use) is far more valuable than lots of experience with SAP, and even with my confiscatory rates, I am cheaper than hiring someone locally (primarily due to geography related higher pay requirements and benefits and employment taxes). My learning curve, after acquiring basic SAP knowledge, would be in conversion of the system over time. Of course, I have no idea what the platform requirements are for working with SAP locally.....something else I need to learn.

So....now I need to look into SAP training, the timing of when I need to do it, and what it will cost. The husband of the athletic department secretary where I coach works for SAP (or whatever the name of the company is that owns it), so I am going to contact him to assist in finding out such info.

scaeagles · 06-26-2006, 11:50 AM

I saw that one.....something tells me it might take a bit longer.

DreadPirateRoberts · 06-26-2006, 11:56 AM

Yeah, 24 hours is pretty silly, it would probably take at least 36 to 48 hours.

scaeagles · 06-29-2006, 10:33 PM

Potential solution.....

I've kept in contact with old work contacts over the years....and happened to run into one a year or so ago. He told me if I was ever in need of work to look him up. I did. He called me tonight after I sent him an email this morning and he had already talked to his CEO about me. They are interested because of my business and consulting experience and aren't concerned about my lack of current tech. I was fortunate to pick up a couple of different languages while crossing over on projects when I worked with this guy, and he remembers how quickly I picked them up.

Best part - the office is 5 miles from my house. And I may still have the option of working from home some of the time. And I may still be able to work coaching into the equation. And it isn't nearly the reduction in income that I was expecting (probably less than 5% from what he told me on the phone).

I'm going to go visit with them next week.

A bit of encouraging news. I really needed some.

wendybeth · 06-29-2006, 10:48 PM

06-26-2006, 09:41 AM	#6
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	An encouraging update...... My partner (who handles the business end of the business) has done some calling to a few old friends he still has within the organization and the current IT manager (my partner used to be the financial controller for this particular place). Apparently they are six months to a year from even making the official decision to go SAP, but there is no question what the decision will be. Once the decision is made, they are looking at probably four years of conversion. Their IT department is not going to be consumed by corporate. Their IT manager was very interested in keeping us around should I learn SAP. The knowledge I have of their systems (crud, I've written 90% of what they use) is far more valuable than lots of experience with SAP, and even with my confiscatory rates, I am cheaper than hiring someone locally (primarily due to geography related higher pay requirements and benefits and employment taxes). My learning curve, after acquiring basic SAP knowledge, would be in conversion of the system over time. Of course, I have no idea what the platform requirements are for working with SAP locally.....something else I need to learn. So....now I need to look into SAP training, the timing of when I need to do it, and what it will cost. The husband of the athletic department secretary where I coach works for SAP (or whatever the name of the company is that owns it), so I am going to contact him to assist in finding out such info.
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06-26-2006, 11:50 AM	#7
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I saw that one.....something tells me it might take a bit longer.
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06-26-2006, 11:56 AM	#8
DreadPirateRoberts Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,483	Yeah, 24 hours is pretty silly, it would probably take at least 36 to 48 hours.
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06-29-2006, 10:33 PM	#9
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Potential solution..... I've kept in contact with old work contacts over the years....and happened to run into one a year or so ago. He told me if I was ever in need of work to look him up. I did. He called me tonight after I sent him an email this morning and he had already talked to his CEO about me. They are interested because of my business and consulting experience and aren't concerned about my lack of current tech. I was fortunate to pick up a couple of different languages while crossing over on projects when I worked with this guy, and he remembers how quickly I picked them up. Best part - the office is 5 miles from my house. And I may still have the option of working from home some of the time. And I may still be able to work coaching into the equation. And it isn't nearly the reduction in income that I was expecting (probably less than 5% from what he told me on the phone). I'm going to go visit with them next week. A bit of encouraging news. I really needed some.
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06-29-2006, 10:48 PM	#10
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