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Old 07-14-2006, 02:56 PM   #1
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eh, I dont really 'hate' anyone.

wish them ill? yeah
would like very much to bludgeon them to a gooey puddle with a frozen leg of lamb? sure
could watch them tumble down a 12 story flight of stairs and get a really good laugh out of it?
undoubtedly.

but not 'hate'
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Old 07-14-2006, 03:44 PM   #2
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The definition of "Hate" has changed over the years I believe: Didn't it once mean simply to "like less" than something else?
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Old 07-14-2006, 03:49 PM   #3
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If so then I hate every movie I've ever seen except All About Eve. And all breakfast cereals other than Honey Bunches of Oats.

I think it has always meant something much stronger than what you describe. I try to separate hate of action from hate of the actor. Something of a hate the sin, not the sinner approach.

I also think there is something inherently different in meaning between when a person says "I hate Hitler" or "I hate George Bush" and "I hate disco" or "I hate raisins in bread pudding."
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Old 07-14-2006, 05:14 PM   #4
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How about "I wouldn't want to be......"?
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...or "I hate raisins in bread pudding."
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How about "I wouldn't want to be......"?
"I wouldn't want to be bread pudding."

Sounds odd to me, but what the heck.
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"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple"...Luke 14:26


Ive always took this to mean "like less". Because I don't think anyone really thinks Jesus was saying to actually "hate" anyone.
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Old 07-15-2006, 04:17 PM   #7
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I hate human stupidity, irrationality, over-dramatics, fear, reactionist tendencies, and human hatred itself, amongst a million other things.

Individual people pale in comparison to such concepts. Yes, they are broad and vague and mean different things to different people - but still, I hate all of the sucky weaknesses of humankind.

We could be masters of our fates, if only we weren't so petty, forgetful, lazy, and unable to work together.

Hitler was a bad guy but all the stuff above is what really killed 6 million Jews then, and continues to kill people all over the world constantly. If you're not dead, you're still a victim to human faults, both yours and the faults of those around you, and you'll still be tortured because of them.

You want to talk about real hate? That is what I hate.
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I agree with CP. I have a really hard time truly hating Hitler. He was a lunatic, but did he really kill six million jews? No. I doubt that he personally killed a single jew. Thousands of soldiers killed millions of jews and others. Neighbors turned in neighbors, family members turned each other in and watched their loved ones be carted of to concentration camps. All of those people had a responsibility to stand up and say, "I don't farking think so, stop torturing and incinerating people," but very few did. Because of exactly the reasons CP gave above.

I hate stupidity.


ETA: Just to clarify, I think Hitler was a despicable person. Hate isn't really the right word for how I regard him, though.
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