Al Gore:How Green Is He?

[mousepod]

Dear Mr. Thread Boss,

Everyone is a hypocrite to some degree. Let's say we all stipulate that the hard facts of the article you linked to are true. Where do we go from there?

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by mousepod

Everyone is a hypocrite to some degree. Let's say we all stipulate that the hard facts of the article you linked to are true. Where do we go from there?

Make your own decisions about Al Gore. As I've said, I'm not a fan of his. If someone os going to put themselves as the standard-bearer for a cause, then that person sets themselves of for critcisms of their actions which contradict their words. I feel Al Gore has committed that here and I am going to point it out.

[Nephythys]

Disregard the hypocrisy by dismissing the author of the article.
Disregard the intent of the OP by derailing his thread.

So when a well known conservative bashing author writes a piece calling Bush a hypocrite- I can disregard it.
And when someone makes the intent of their thread clear- I can disregard it.

Lesson learned.....

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Disregard the hypocrisy by dismissing the author of the article.

I'll remember this the next time I present Al Franken as a credible cite.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

I'll remember this the next time I present Al Franken as a credible cite.

damn right

[mousepod]

Here's my last post in this thread (I'm going to abide by the wishes of the original poster and keep it entirely on topic).

I find the article to be distasteful, because it attacks a message by attacking the messenger. I think that this kind of cheap shot is typical of both the left and right. Technically, Al Gore may indeed be a "hypocrite" according to the narrow constraints imposed by the USA Today piece. Obfuscating the issue, like the author does, is worse.

[sleepyjeff]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12743273/

Gore: ... In the United States of America, unfortunately we still live in a bubble of unreality. And the Category 5 denial is an enormous obstacle to any discussion of solutions. Nobody is interested in solutions if they don't think there's a problem. Given that starting point, I believe it is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presentations on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions are, and how hopeful it is that we are going to solve this crisis.

So it's ok to lie about global warming to save the planet from global warming?

Maybe this is why he doesn't go overboard in his personal life when it comes to living green? He really doesn't believe half of what he preaches.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

So it's ok to lie about global warming to save the planet from global warming?

What you quote does not support the question you ask.

He doesn't say "lie." He is simply saying that talking about solutions is useless until people believe there is a problem. So that right now the presentations to convince of the problem will be over-represented in relation to the presentations on how to solve the problem.

In fact, he specifically doesn't say "lie" by saying "factual presentation."

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

What you quote does not support the question you ask.

He doesn't say "lie." He is simply saying that talking about solutions is useless until people believe there is a problem. So that right now the presentations to convince of the problem will be over-represented in relation to the presentations on how to solve the problem.

In fact, he specifically doesn't say "lie" by saying "factual presentation."

You may have a point but over-represented by its very definition means the numbers are inflated. Enron executives went to jail for doing this

[Alex]

What are you talking about? All over-represented means is that he is going to talk more about whether global warming exists than how to fix it.

In no way does it imply that the information about whether global warming exists is inflated.