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Old 08-17-2006, 10:02 PM   #1
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The best method of conveyance for both weed and heavy backpack is a mule.
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Old 08-17-2006, 10:05 PM   #2
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Hrmm, it's been a while since I've had the good ol' "How my inalienable rights are being trampled by the concept of random locker searches" debate (a favorite AP History/AP Government class passtime), but it might actually be easier for them to search backpacks than lockers. With lockers there were all these hoops to jump through to ensure that it remained "random", whereas I believe if they decided to haul you into the office, they'd search your backback by default.

But again, it's been 10 years, so I may be wrong.
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Old 08-17-2006, 10:07 PM   #3
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Can they search the mule?
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Can they search the mule?
Depends, did they find him in the trunk via a random search, or by illegal profiling?
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Old 08-17-2006, 10:12 PM   #5
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Illegal profiling of the trunk, I believe. Apparently the trunk looked like the kind of trunk that would have a mule in it.
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Old 08-17-2006, 10:38 PM   #6
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Hrmm, it's been a while since I've had the good ol' "How my inalienable rights are being trampled by the concept of random locker searches" debate (a favorite AP History/AP Government class passtime), but it might actually be easier for them to search backpacks than lockers. With lockers there were all these hoops to jump through to ensure that it remained "random", whereas I believe if they decided to haul you into the office, they'd search your backback by default.

But again, it's been 10 years, so I may be wrong.
We had this same debate last year in my AP European History class. Since the locker was school property, the school has the right to open the locker and look inside for any reason at all, and it didn't have to be random. However, they could not go inside any of your personal stuff. You could only be procecuted with visible items.

To search a backpack, the school needs to obtain parental permission or the consent of the student, unless they have probable cause (which can only be determined by a police officer...not hard since we have one stationed on campus).

A few years ago when I was in Junior High, they would do random drug dog searches, where they would come into a classroom, tell everyone to leave their bags and jackets, and tell them to wait outside while they swept the room. That stopped a few years ago after it was ruled an invasion of privacy.

The consequence for having drugs (or any other illegal substance..even medicine not approved by the nurse) on campus is expulusion, no questions asked. Everyone expelled in my district is sent to a special school called Opportunity for Learning (OFL) which is, and I'm not kidding here, surrounded by a 8 foot high wall and has x-ray machines and metal detectors at all openings.

We don't really have many drug problems at school itself, but we have BIG issues at all of our dances. When I went to prom last year, I was literally padded down 3 times, had my wallet, cell phone, boutonniere, and keys inspected, and had to ride on a special bus to the site. My girlfriend wasn't allowed to bring any sort of makeup with her or anything.

It's pretty crazy stuff. Sometimes I feel like I'm in prision rather than school.
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Old 08-17-2006, 10:54 PM   #7
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Are we/you overlooking the obvious, or is there some rule that I don't know about?

You have a car, right? That's a locker. Even if you don't get to go to it between all classes, you can still go to it at lunchtime (if I understand you correctly).

So you don't carry 7 books around all day. You carry the stuff for the before lunch classes before lunch, then switch out at lunch for the after lunch stuff.

I always carried my math book with me, and for English we had our own paperbacks (by junior year, we were going to B&N and buying our own). History and Psych books stayed at home since the teacher lectured. My Physics and Chem books weren't needed in class. The French books were always pretty small; I had to carry those. So that's two hardbacks and paperback that I was usually carrying with me. And then for a couple years I had dance gear, and for another year I had photography gear, and then senior year I only had 5 classes and left early.

And as far as I remember, the syllabi all said I had to have my stuff with me every day. The syllabi I give my students says they have to have all their class stuff with them every day. In some of my classes that's true; in others it's not.
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Are we/you overlooking the obvious, or is there some rule that I don't know about?

You have a car, right? That's a locker. Even if you don't get to go to it between all classes, you can still go to it at lunchtime (if I understand you correctly).

So you don't carry 7 books around all day. You carry the stuff for the before lunch classes before lunch, then switch out at lunch for the after lunch stuff.

I always carried my math book with me, and for English we had our own paperbacks (by junior year, we were going to B&N and buying our own). History and Psych books stayed at home since the teacher lectured. My Physics and Chem books weren't needed in class. The French books were always pretty small; I had to carry those. So that's two hardbacks and paperback that I was usually carrying with me. And then for a couple years I had dance gear, and for another year I had photography gear, and then senior year I only had 5 classes and left early.

And as far as I remember, the syllabi all said I had to have my stuff with me every day. The syllabi I give my students says they have to have all their class stuff with them every day. In some of my classes that's true; in others it's not.
Well, last year, I had pretty much all the same teachers (I only have one teacher different this year), and we used our books every day, so I'm guessing it will be the same this year. The only difference is that I have 3 more books this year, and the books are quite a bit thicker than before.

We only have one class after lunch, so keeping it in my car won't make a huge difference, since I'll still have a bunch of books to carry around.

I'm toying with the idea of storing stuff in the ASB office (we have a coat closet no one ever uses), but I don't want to risk something happening to my books and having to pay like 400 bucks to replace them all.
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Old 08-17-2006, 11:06 PM   #9
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The photocopy option is a good one then (so long as you can predict what you'll need when). Copy double-sided.

See if any of those texts are available in paperback editions (unlikely, but you never know until you check). If you can find a reasonably priced paperback, that'll save you a few pounds.

If any of them are things like writing handbooks, you might be able to get away with a different compact edition. You'd be on a different page, but the rules of the comma are the rules of the comma. All those books are essentially the same, unless yours is full of exercises you will have to complete during class.
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Old 08-18-2006, 08:51 AM   #10
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If you do the backpack thing, don't do the cool over one shoulder thing. It's bad for your spine. Make sure you put both arms through both straps and wear it on your back.
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