Man kills 3-year-old boy for being a "sissy"!

[Nephythys]

This is the second story like this I have heard- the other was a woman who stood by, in the same room, while her boyfriend beat her toddler daughter to death because she ate the guys sausage.

No- those women have NOT suffered enough.

[tracilicious]

Yeah that. If someone beat my kids to death I highly doubt I would care if I spent the next six years in jail. But sadly, women stay with abusive men all the time. She probably really believed that he wouldn't touch the kid again. Doesn't mean she's not an idiot.

I do think this is different from the story sixish months ago where the dad was afraid the three year old would turn out gay and beat him. The kid was in shock for three days and stopped eating and going to the bathroom before he died and the mom didn't even take him to the hospital. These people make me wish I believed in hell.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by tracilicious

Yeah that. If someone beat my kids to death I highly doubt I would care if I spent the next six years in jail. But sadly, women stay with abusive men all the time. She probably really believed that he wouldn't touch the kid again. Doesn't mean she's not an idiot.

Someone lays a hand on my kids and they're the ones who will end up damaged. I would die to protect mine- what the HELL us wrong with a mother who wouldn't?

These people make me wish I believed in hell.

I believe enough for both of us.

[Gn2Dlnd]

Riverside is the sh!thole where I grew up.

And my mom wonders why I hate driving out there.

[alphabassettgrrl]

Sheesh- there are worse things to grow up than being a sissy. Guy deserves a whole lot of bad coming his way.

Mom probably believed the boyfriend when he said he'd be nicer to the kid. Not real bright. Certainly not smart to leave the guy alone with your kid while you go to work but maybe she didn't have many options. He was just a kid so she couldn't leave him alone.

[Jughead P. Jones]

One thing is for certain...there's a spot in hell that is reserved for these sick and twisted individuals.

I can't even fathom why anyone would do that to a child.

[Not Afraid]

Originally Posted by Tracilicious

BFD. We all choose what kind of people to become. Having lived through hell is not an excuse to put others through hell.

Yes, as an adult, you have the ability to make choices, but most of the time these choices are based on what you've learned throughout your life. If beating, molesting, alcoholism, drug use and crime are the norm for you then why wouldn't you continue doing these things as a normal human being would?

There may not be an excuse for people like there, but there sure as hell is a reason.

[€uroMeinke]

In theory though, those who kill their offspring should ultimately end that particular cycle of violence.

[tracilicious]

Argh! You guys all make very valid points. I actually agree with all of you. I generally can see people's motivations and feel compassion for them. But I have zero sympathy for a guy that beats a three year old to death. None whatsoever.

And at what point does personal responsibility come into play? There are those that are abused as kids that come out of it as wonderful parents. They learn from what their parents did to them and they do the opposite. Why do people that perpetuate the cycle get their behavior written off as ingrained?

I understand that it is difficult to change a pattern of behavior. But there are parenting classes, therapy, books they could read, and any number of other things they could choose to do to enable them to become parents that don't beat the sh!t out of their kids. Even the lowest income parents have access to a library. There are free parenting classes.

I don't understand people ever hitting a child. But beating them because they are a sissy? That's just horrendous.

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by tracilicious

Argh! You guys all make very valid points. I actually agree with all of you. I generally can see people's motivations and feel compassion for them. But I have zero sympathy for a guy that beats a three year old to death. None whatsoever.

And at what point does personal responsibility come into play? There are those that are abused as kids that come out of it as wonderful parents. They learn from what their parents did to them and they do the opposite. Why do people that perpetuate the cycle get their behavior written off as ingrained?

I understand that it is difficult to change a pattern of behavior. But there are parenting classes, therapy, books they could read, and any number of other things they could choose to do to enable them to become parents that don't beat the sh!t out of their kids. Even the lowest income parents have access to a library. There are free parenting classes.

I don't understand people ever hitting a child. But beating them because they are a sissy? That's just horrendous.

This was the boyfriend. The biological father was in prison and, judging by the last names, probably was not married to the boy's mother. The two guys who did the killing probably have fathered kids that they're not looking after very well; most of my young clients have.

I think there are low income people, mostly women, who attend parenting classes, but I don't think this generally happens unless the system is involved in some way and they are threatened with the loss of their children.

Speaking of choices, you'd think women would not need a class to teach them not to get involve with violent men, men who won't use birth control, etc. And yet . . .