The Gay Thread - Page 100

Betty · 02-05-2011, 09:03 AM

Remember that sweet boy who dressed up as Daphne for Halloween? There's more to the story. She's been accused of bearing false witness, promoting gayness and was basically given an ultimatum to apologize or not come back to church.

Chernabog · 02-06-2011, 02:23 PM

So stuck are these "Christians" on this one thing that they can vilify that they are blind to actually doing anything useful. Spirituality is so important (to me, anyway... though my spirituality doesn't come through religion). However, I feel bad for those who would receive a sense of spirituality and belonging through religion, but are shunned by the "Church." Gays and the Church don't need to be enemies. I place all the blame for this problem on the Church.

For some reason it brings to mind a story from Christoper Hitchen's "God is not Great," which essentially argues that religion is irrelevant to morality. He was asked the following question:

"I was to imagine myself in a strange city as the evening was coming on. Toward me I was to imagine that I saw a large group of men approaching. Now -- would I feel safer, or less safe, if I was to learn that they were just coming from a prayer meeting?"

Hitchens replied that the answer was "less safe" and as a gay man I would agree. This was not the answer that the questioner was looking for...
The person who posed the question wrote a response to this here, claiming that Hitchens had misrepresented the question and "prayer meeting" was actually "Bible Study," so Hitchens was responding incorrectly to an incorrect question.

What's funny for me is that if I knew they were coming out of "Bible Study" I would DEFINITELY feel less safe.

Sorry but if you have tunnel vision thinking that the only "good" way is the Church's way, and the Church is an infallible force of "good" in this world, and that prayer always leads to "better" people, then you deserve to be a brain-dead sheep.

innerSpaceman · 02-06-2011, 03:03 PM

But in this case, the pastor was wanting Boo's mom to apologize - not to the Church, but specifically to the four bitch mom parishioners who she'd scolded for bullying her child. So it seems more like typical Small Town of Small Minds potatoes, more than particularly churchy.

Chernabog · 02-06-2011, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

But in this case, the pastor was wanting Boo's mom to apologize - not to the Church, but specifically to the four bitch mom parishioners who she'd scolded for bullying her child. So it seems more like typical Small Town of Small Minds potatoes, more than particularly churchy.

Well he was bullying her to apologize because she had, in the eyes of the pastor/church/God/Jeebus broken one of the ten commandments. I see that as really churchy.

Betty · 02-07-2011, 09:04 AM

Better that she find out what kind of people they really are I say. Put on a pretty face to (most of) the world, but when it comes down to it, they are ugly.

SzczerbiakManiac · 02-07-2011, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Betty

Remember that sweet boy who dressed up as Daphne for Halloween? There's more to the story. She's been accused of bearing false witness, promoting gayness and was basically given an ultimatum to apologize or not come back to church.

That story seems familiar somehow....

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Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

But the awesome cleric of the year most definitely does not go to her pastor! An epilogue to "Boo's" story.

Betty · 02-07-2011, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

That story seems familiar somehow....

It's like deja vu!

Kevy Baby · 02-07-2011, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Betty

It's like deja vu!

All over again!

SzczerbiakManiac · 02-07-2011, 07:57 PM

Modern Family's Jesse Tyler Ferguson & Eric Stonestreet sing "Write it Gay" at the 2011 WGA Awards

SzczerbiakManiac · 02-22-2011, 03:59 PM

Do these shoes make me kook gay?

02-05-2011, 09:03 AM	#991
Betty Kicking up my heels! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Silver State Posts: 3,783	Remember that sweet boy who dressed up as Daphne for Halloween? There's more to the story. She's been accused of bearing false witness, promoting gayness and was basically given an ultimatum to apologize or not come back to church. __________________ Nee Stell Thue
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02-06-2011, 02:23 PM	#992
Chernabog Biophage Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Moon Posts: 2,679	So stuck are these "Christians" on this one thing that they can vilify that they are blind to actually doing anything useful. Spirituality is so important (to me, anyway... though my spirituality doesn't come through religion). However, I feel bad for those who would receive a sense of spirituality and belonging through religion, but are shunned by the "Church." Gays and the Church don't need to be enemies. I place all the blame for this problem on the Church. For some reason it brings to mind a story from Christoper Hitchen's "God is not Great," which essentially argues that religion is irrelevant to morality. He was asked the following question: "I was to imagine myself in a strange city as the evening was coming on. Toward me I was to imagine that I saw a large group of men approaching. Now -- would I feel safer, or less safe, if I was to learn that they were just coming from a prayer meeting?" Hitchens replied that the answer was "less safe" and as a gay man I would agree. This was not the answer that the questioner was looking for... The person who posed the question wrote a response to this here, claiming that Hitchens had misrepresented the question and "prayer meeting" was actually "Bible Study," so Hitchens was responding incorrectly to an incorrect question. What's funny for me is that if I knew they were coming out of "Bible Study" I would DEFINITELY feel less safe. Sorry but if you have tunnel vision thinking that the only "good" way is the Church's way, and the Church is an infallible force of "good" in this world, and that prayer always leads to "better" people, then you deserve to be a brain-dead sheep. __________________ And they say back then our universe Was a coal black egg Until the god inside Burst out and from its shattered shell He made what became the world we know ~ Bjork (Cosmogony)
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02-06-2011, 03:03 PM	#993
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	But in this case, the pastor was wanting Boo's mom to apologize - not to the Church, but specifically to the four bitch mom parishioners who she'd scolded for bullying her child. So it seems more like typical Small Town of Small Minds potatoes, more than particularly churchy.
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02-07-2011, 09:04 AM	#995
Betty Kicking up my heels! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Silver State Posts: 3,783	Better that she find out what kind of people they really are I say. Put on a pretty face to (most of) the world, but when it comes down to it, they are ugly. __________________ Nee Stell Thue
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02-07-2011, 07:57 PM	#999
SzczerbiakManiac "ZER-bee-ak" Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,409	Modern Family's Jesse Tyler Ferguson & Eric Stonestreet sing "Write it Gay" at the 2011 WGA Awards __________________
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02-22-2011, 03:59 PM	#1000
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