Deathly Hallows Book Discussion **LoTs Of Spoilers**

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Eliza Hodgkins 1812

I assumed that the creepy Voldemort baby was a piece of Voldemort's soul, and that it was appropriately a creepy baby thing since Voldemort was reduced to being a creepy baby thing before Harry's blood and bone (in a way infected by that piece of Voldemort himself, since Harry was a Horcrux) restored him to his, uh, more manly status.

"It's your one last chance," said Harry, "it's all you've got left....I've seen what you'll be otherwise....Be a man...try...Try for some remorse...."

I figured during that scene that it was Voldemort's soul, and this, to me, confirms it conclusively. "I've seen what you'll be". "Be a man" (as opposed to an infantile soul).

Snape's still an ass. His motivations were always selfish, his participation begrudging. It's not that he wanted to help Dumbledore defeat Voldemort, he just wanted to molify his own guilt and convince himself he was doing something for the love he screwed up. No pity or redemption from me.

The epilogue was cute but unnecessary.

I skimmed the thread, so sorry if this has been addressed, but one thing kinda bugged m. With the amount of stuff that was in the Room of Requirement/hiding room (enough to crush Crabbe), how could Riddle/Voldemort thought no one else could get there? I mean, I understand that the idea was that he was arrogant and all, but that just seemed like a bit too much of a stretch.

Overall, I enjoyed the journey. I'm amongst the ones that had rather lost interest by the end of book 6, and definitely went into this with a, "At least if I get through this it'll be over and I don't have to think about it anymore." But this one grabbed me from the start.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Ooooh, I love the mandrake-infant thing in King's Cross Limbo being the bit of Voldemort's soul now cast off from Harry. That makes much more sense and resonates far nicer than it simply being Volemort.

Although now I have to wonder what happened to Voldie while he, too, was unconsious. Did he go to a different Limbo? (A redder, hotter one?) Or was he simply blacked out?


I'm not expecting answers ... unless J.K. starts posting here. But I love the questions this brings up. Thanks, BTD, for the Voldie-Soul Cast-Off theory!

You're quite welcome. I think that Voldie died. Harry "faced death" head on and was given a choice. Voldie was convinced he was beyond being killed, therefore he died. Also, he split his soul so many times, and each of the 7 splits were killed he had no soul left to live.

[Nephythys]

The book does reference that people under the Imperius curse start coming out of it when Voldemort dies- it's like killing the head vampire or something.

[Morrigoon]

Yay! I *finally* finished reading and can finally read this thread!

Okay, so clear me up here... wasn't there a point in the book where portraits only being able to visit their own (other portraits of same person) a major plot point? And yet, later in the book (hell, the whole series), portraits are always visiting other pictures.

[katiesue]

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Yay! I *finally* finished reading and can finally read this thread!

Okay, so clear me up here... wasn't there a point in the book where portraits only being able to visit their own (other portraits of same person) a major plot point? And yet, later in the book (hell, the whole series), portraits are always visiting other pictures.

I think that they can visit othe portraits in the same building. The Fat Lady who gaurds Griffindor always has her friend Violet over. But they can only to go another building if they have another portrait there.

[innerSpaceman]

Hmmm, is the bit of soul captured in one's portrait captured and fixed at the moment of painting, or does the portrait of a dead person reflect that person's lifetime soul?

[katiesue]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Hmmm, is the bit of soul captured in one's portrait captured and fixed at the moment of painting, or does the portrait of a dead person reflect that person's lifetime soul?

I'd say lifetime. Because the portraits are aware of current circumstances.

[katiesue]

Why does the Wizarding world celebrate christian holidays like Christmas and Easter? There don't seem to be, that I can recall, and references to God in any form.

Do Wizards in say India celebrate Hindu holidays or middle eastern wizards Islamic holidays?

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Is it too early after the book release to add this to quotes?

Yes. Unless you remove references to names and gender of said character.

Originally Posted by katiesue

Why does the Wizarding world celebrate christian holidays like Christmas and Easter? There don't seem to be, that I can recall, and references to God in any form.

Do Wizards in say India celebrate Hindu holidays or middle eastern wizards Islamic holidays?

Not sure. I never thought of it - always took it as secular.

[lashbear]

Originally Posted by katiesue

Why does the Wizarding world celebrate christian holidays like Christmas and Easter? There don't seem to be, that I can recall, and references to God in any form.

Do Wizards in say India celebrate Hindu holidays or middle eastern wizards Islamic holidays?

I remember at least once there were Christmas Trees in the Great Hall (and snow from the ceiling, if I remember rightly) - so they do celebrate Chistmas.

No word of what Padma or Pavarti did though.