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[JWBear]

When I took the unpopular position of hating a movie everyone else here loved, I at least watched it first.

[BarTopDancer]

JW, you silly Bear. He doesn't need to watch Avatar. He's seen/heard enough to know it's just giant Smurfs reenacting Pocahontas and Fern Gully now with teh sex!

[Jazzman]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

JW, you silly Bear. He doesn't need to watch Avatar. He's seen/heard enough to know it's just giant Smurfs reenacting Pocahontas and Fern Gully now with teh sex!

Pretty much.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Jazzman

$15.50 to see Alien Smurf Hippies!?! I don't f-ing think so! If I want to see 3D hippies with anti-capitalist ideals running around raging against The Man, I'll go hang out in downtown Portland. And if I want them to be funnily colored hippies, I'll go hang out at the Saturday Market. Besides, isn't it a bit disingenuous to make a big movie all about how humans are evil, Western nature rapists, and then charge $15 to see it? Seems a little un-hippy-like to go all mega-capitalist on the admission price to see your anti-capitalism movie. Shouldn't they be charging, like, beads or carbon credits or organic, free trade coffee for admission or something? Anyhow, I'll see it when it hits Netflix. Sorry Mr. Cameron.

Originally Posted by Jazzman

The only way I'll see this film is in 3D, as that and its overall visuals are all that I'm interested in. Otherwise, it's just another "People are evil" film, which isn't worth more than a Netflix slot to me.

Originally Posted by Jazzman

Now that I know there's a love scene, I really have to see it. 3D Smurf love... How fantastic is that!?!

Originally Posted by Jazzman

Looks like some people are buying into the Greenpeace message a bit too much.

Originally Posted by Jazzman

I guess one of the things that I find most laughable, or perhaps maddening, about that whole thing is that their depression is based on the belief that Earth sucks and can never be the utopia in the film. Well, yeah, Earth will never have glowing neon trees, disco ferns or six foot Smurfs, but come on, the Earth is not bad at all. It's pretty kick ass, in fact. Visit Yosemite, or Yellowstone, or the Caribbean, or Hawai'i, or the Maldives, or the Alps, or any number of Earth's beautiful wonders. You'll see that this planet still has it going on, so pull your mopey asses together and get out of the house!

Originally Posted by Jazzman

Not quite. Avoiding Potter because one thinks it will turn one to witchcraft is being both ignorant of the story's message and point as well as being foolishly superstitious. Not feeling inspired or drawn to see Avatar because one has no interest in neon alien hippy Smurfs is simply personal taste. Some people are inspired to go see certain movies, others are motivated to see others. I recently greatly anticipated the release of Boondock Saints II. Does that give me a right or reason to criticize those who did not find Boondocks an interesting draw and accuse them of being stupid? No, of course not, because not everyone is required to be pulled into the anticipation and excitement of the same things, even when those things become societal fad du jours. In other words, avoidance due to ignorance and opting not to partake due to lack of any interest at all are two entirely different things, and the latter is a completely innocent and respectable situation.

Originally Posted by Jazzman

Pretty much.

Given the multiple cracks you have taken at the movie-I would say it is not an innocent disinterest.

With the more liberal bent of Hollywood it can not come as a surprise that there are sometimes messages in movies that trend towards that view. So what? Of course you can choose not to go see those movies- but why waste so much time railing about it if it was just "disinterest".

My politics are quite conservative- everyone knows that- but I was able to enjoy this movie for what it was- a fun movie, set in a beautiful world different than our own. It did not make be think that all humans are evil, or that the military is evil, or that we are killing our planet. It's a fictional story-tinted with some "progressive" messages- again, so what?

I guess you are going to go see it-hope you enjoy it. But don't pretend this is benign disinterest on your part-not with so many quoteable slams on something you have not seen- MUCH like the people who slammed the Harry Potter books as evil without reading them or knowing anything about them.

[Jazzman]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Given the multiple cracks you have taken at the movie-I would say it is not an innocent disinterest.

With the more liberal bent of Hollywood it can not come as a surprise that there are sometimes messages in movies that trend towards that view. So what? Of course you can choose not to go see those movies- but why waste so much time railing about it if it was just "disinterest".

My politics are quite conservative- everyone knows that- but I was able to enjoy this movie for what it was- a fun movie, set in a beautiful world different than our own. It did not make be think that all humans are evil, or that the military is evil, or that we are killing our planet. It's a fictional story-tinted with some "progressive" messages- again, so what?

I guess you are going to go see it-hope you enjoy it. But don't pretend this is benign disinterest on your part-not with so many quoteable slams on something you have not seen- MUCH like the people who slammed the Harry Potter books as evil without reading them or knowing anything about them.

Sorry Nephy, but you (and others) are simply looking for emotions and motivations which just aren't there. Yes, I posted my thoughts regarding the film and my sentiments regarding why I have no desire, other than because of the 3D visuals, to see it. But, this is a discussion site. That's the point. I click on LoT, click "New Posts," click a thread, and if I feel like it, I post. I'm not protesting on a freeway overpass or marching through downtown with a sign. I posted on a message board. You, Alex and others can, of course, work all you guys like to create a mountain out of this molehill, but the truth is, I just posted my thoughts on a message board. Took only a few seconds. I don't lose sleep over it, I don't think about it otherwise, I don't dwell on it. I just posted my thoughts on a message board. I don't know how else to say it to make it more clear, so believe what you wish. I know the truth. So, I guess, whatever...

ETA: And really, quoting my posts where I added a link relevant to the film, laughed about the love scene I hadn't known about, and posted about how great the Earth is, as proof that I have some sort of issue or complex? Come on, Neph, you're smarter than that. By that logic, every single person who posted in this thread has issues, and that's obviously not the case.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Jazzman

I just posted my thoughts on a message board.

Over and over and over again. Enjoy beating that poor horse?

Here's a good example actual disinterest in a film thread: Go find my posts in most of the film threads around here. They probably aren't there because I'm not interested in most of the films the rest of the LoT is. I don't go around proclaiming my disinterest.

Actually, with the way you keep coming back to proclaim your disinterest, the quote The lady doth protest too much, methinks is extremely appropriate.

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by Jazzman

By that logic, every single person who posted in this thread has issues, and that's obviously not the case.

Heh - you sure about that?

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Jazzman

ETA: And really, quoting my posts where I added a link relevant to the film, laughed about the love scene I hadn't known about, and posted about how great the Earth is, as proof that I have some sort of issue or complex? Come on, Neph, you're smarter than that. By that logic, every single person who posted in this thread has issues, and that's obviously not the case.

Just pointing out the numerous times you needed to tell us what was wrong with a movie you had not seen in a thread about a movie you don't care about.

[Chernabog]

I'm still seriously meh'ed about Avatar. The more I think about Avatar, the less I like it. No interest in getting it on blu-ray once it comes out. I'm glad the kiddies like it and all.... but honestly, I've seen all of Cameron's films multiple times (Aliens, T2 and The Abyss I've seen more times than I can count) and Avatar is at the bottom imho in terms of repeat viewings. I could watch Ripley battle it out with the Queen Alien a million times (hell, I could watch the end of Titanic over and over), but can I think of one scene in Avatar I really want to see again? errr... honestly, no.

Kinda like how my least favorite Pixar movie is A Bugs Life.... not a bad movie by any means, enjoyable by all counts, but at the bottom of the heap when compared to work by the same-ish crew.

I saw District 9 last night though, that was an awesome movie (not to completely change the topic)

[Jazzman]

Originally Posted by Chernabog

I saw District 9 last night though, that was an awesome movie (not to completely change the topic)

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Dude, we just watched that on Friday for the first time and absolutely loved it! Great scifi, and great story. And I love seeing CG that doesn't look like CG. The prawns never once seemed cartoony or fake to me. Really aided the film in drawing me in. I'd love to see a sequel, but last I heard, Blomkamp is talking prequel, which would be cool too, but I want to see what happens when reinforcements arrive! Anyhow, great freaking movie.

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