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Old 04-19-2006, 07:43 PM   #1
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Vicodine, codine, morphine, heroin, laudnum, oxycodone, etc are all opiods or opium dirivitives. They all act basically the same way but some are semisynthetic or synthetic.

Some people don't react the same as other to opiates and they don't seem to work. I find that Advil does more for me than the opiate family.
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Old 04-19-2006, 07:53 PM   #3
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And none of them work on me as well as Advil. Although if I actually take vicodine I get to experience the joy that is projectile vomiting.
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According to recent reports, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are now costing us 10 billion dollars a month, twice as much as the first year.

This breaks down to approx. $231,481.00 per minute.
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Old 04-19-2006, 09:16 PM   #5
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According to recent reports, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are now costing us 10 billion dollars a month, twice as much as the first year.

This breaks down to approx. $231,481.00 per minute.
How much of that is spent in-country and how much State-side? The State-side money should mostly go right back into our economy and the money spent over there can't hurt their economies any.
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The time I had a kidney stone a morphine drip did seem to act quickly. But that is the only time before today that I've ever taken non-local painkillers (the kidney stone passed before I came off the morphine). My sample size is so small who knows what works and what doesn't.

Steve, since they don't seem to be acting as anything other than a sleeping pill I'd already decided to skip them unless pain becomes absolutely unbearable or I can't get to sleep.

sleepyjeff: a bullet that does a $0.04 boost to the stateside economy can do a lot more than in damage to the warside economy and vice versa.
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sleepyjeff: a bullet that does a $0.04 boost to the stateside economy can do a lot more than in damage to the warside economy and vice versa.
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Have some vicodin. It seems to help scaeagles understand.
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How much of that is spent in-country and how much State-side? The State-side money should mostly go right back into our economy and the money spent over there can't hurt their economies any.
Well, I don't don't about how this helps us (stateside) over all, but I do know that the guy who got the Pentagon contract for body armor (David Brooks) gave his daughter a $10,000,000 bat mitzvah and provided employment for such illustrious groups as Aerosmith, Don Henley, 50 Cent and the like. Of course, this was before his defective armor was recalled and he got in trouble with the SEC and investors started filing lawsuits......

I'm just sure that's gonna trickle some direction to us. Really.

(Even Eisenhower knew what the hell was going to happen, Jeff- and what he was afraid of is happening now).
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I'm just sure that's gonna trickle some direction to us. Really.
No such thing as a perfect economic or political system.

"Democracy is the worst form of government - except for all the others." Winston Churchill.

Same could be said for capitalism and economic systems, I suppose.

Wasteful spending is wasteful spending. Plenty of it in the military, plenty of it in social programs, plenty of it in education.....suffice it to say anywhere in government. Not good anywhere.

Regardless, I am not a deficit hawk. I have always struggled to put into words why not, but here is an absolutely brilliant explanation as to why.

Is there a federal deficit?
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