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Old 06-24-2005, 10:07 PM   #11
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Maybe Rove was refering to these nuts.
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Old 06-24-2005, 10:24 PM   #12
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Maybe Rove was refering to these nuts.
Because clearly that's a representative sampling of liberals' opinions.
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Old 06-24-2005, 10:31 PM   #13
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Because clearly that's a representative sampling of liberals' opinions.
Maybe not
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Old 06-25-2005, 12:12 AM   #14
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Damn. I'm disappointed in you, Jeff. I fully expected that to be a link to an article or photo of the Clintons.

The tide is turning, and history seems to be replaying itself. The Red Menace was a real and present threat to the old order, yet the powers that were overplayed their hand and abused their positions. As a result, the current powers that be spent many years lost in a drug fueled daze, only to emerge as Neo-Cons. The next wave of Liberals will not be as passive as the last. I used to scoff at predictions of a new sort of 'Third Estate' revolution, but I don't anymore. People are growing tired of being manipulated and lied to, and the natives are getting very restless.
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Old 06-25-2005, 03:49 AM   #15
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Rove's pronouncements are part of a larger strategy taking hold. The news is getting bad for this administration and is only going to get worse. I think the most troubling thing for them is the ongoing shift of the independents. More and more people are waking up to the fact they've been lied to, and not just about Iraq. Some of the latest polls show the independents rejecting Bush's policies in increasingly similar percentages as the Democrats. It's time to for them to try the "divide and conquer" routine again in an attempt to peel off some of the independents. And this is how it's done.

"Look! Over here!! Something shiny!"

I can't help but think what it must be like for a New Yorker, watching this sleaze hump the corpse of 9/11 one more time for partisan gain. Rove is reaping anger all right, just not the kind he wants. He's forgetting that we were ALL New Yorkers for a time... until that unity was squandered.

Don't be distracted.
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Rove's pronouncements are part of a larger strategy taking hold.

"Look! Over here!! Something shiny!"
.....and now we all know who gets distracted by "shiny" things
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Old 06-25-2005, 10:43 AM   #17
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.....and now we all know who gets distracted by "shiny" things
Do we?

I think the distractions are aimed as much at the Bush supporters as the other side. Better for the conservatives to be paying attention to something like Durban's quote or blindly believing liberals are soft on terror than to have them pay attention to how badly Iraq is going.

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Do we?

I think the distractions are aimed as much at the Bush supporters as the other side. Better for the conservatives to be paying attention to something like Durban's quote or blindly believing liberals are soft on terror than to have them pay attention to how badly Iraq is going.
Lol- I assumed that's what he meant to begin with. Rove's comments aren't distracting in the least to me- I know exactly what the creep is up to. I'm glad he's not on our 'side'. There may be some wacky libs out there, but none as hateful and hatefilled as Rush, Ann, Karl and Co. I hope I never get as bitter and twisted as these poor souls are.
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Old 06-25-2005, 05:08 PM   #19
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Do we?

I think the distractions are aimed as much at the Bush supporters as the other side. Better for the conservatives to be paying attention to something like Durban's quote or blindly believing liberals are soft on terror than to have them pay attention to how badly Iraq is going.
....but why would Rove want to "divert" conservative attention away from Durban's commets?

No, if he was really trying to "divert" conservative attention he would have said something that riled up their passions...not the liberals.
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I thought liberal baiting was a favorite conservative pasttime. "What do you mean, the war is going badly? Hey, look!!! That liberal red diaper doper baby is lighting his crack-pipe with the American flag!!!!!"

Nothing like tearing into the opposition to distract people from the real issues, Jeff- it's something that ALL politicos do. Tell me, is what Durbin said really that much more important than the war? The immigration issue? Social Security? Inflation? If you follow the news, it must be. Meanwhile, the very people with the power to protect us from the bad guys have done very little in that area. They talk a lot about how we should be afraid, and why, but they have done virtually nothing to alleviate that threat. Time has an interesting article on how easily terrorists could take over a nuclear reactor, and the people guarding them are screaming for help. The government is NOT listening. Meanwhile, big business just got the go ahead to use 'eminent domain' to take anyones property away from them, if a city or township deems it economically advantageous. The right to Free Speech is being chipped away at.

Ben Franklin said it best: "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
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