What else happened at Disneyland last Sunday? - Page 2

Gn2Dlnd · 03-26-2005, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

I read in one articla where the author interviewed Jim while he was in Hawaii visiting he daughter. Is Jim Hill Fab's father?

HAHAHAHATOOT(breath)HAHATOOT!!!

Cadaverous Pallor · 03-26-2005, 05:24 PM

MA isn't similar to a service provided by Disney. Tours are provided by Disney, and providing your own tour in it's stead is stealing their business, much like selling bootleg merchandise. I don't go to the park and sell cotton candy or homemade mouseears.

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Originally Posted by Not Afraid

As for people making money off of the park, two of the "big" Disney sites have stores that re-sell park merchandise at a profit. Disney doesn't do this, so they provide a good service to those who live far away. I've heard rumors over and over that Disney will be cracking down on that too, but they haven't so far. If they provided a park catalog service themselves, they'd put an end to this, but they don't seem to want to get into that business. Good for these 2 stores!

I wouldn't go so far as to say "good for them" but rather, "Disney is stupid, and until they get a clue, they deserve to be taken advantage of by the online stores."

Ghoulish Delight · 03-26-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I wouldn't go so far as to say "good for them" but rather, "Disney is stupid, and until they get a clue, they deserve to be taken advantage of by the online stores."

How is Disney stupid? The online stores still buy the mechandise from Disney, so Disney is still making a profit.

Cadaverous Pallor · 03-26-2005, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

How is Disney stupid? The online stores still buy the mechandise from Disney, so Disney is still making a profit.

Disney could be doing the mail-order thing and be making the profit that those online sellers are getting. "Shipping and Handling" adds up to a lot.

Kevy Baby · 03-26-2005, 06:01 PM

Now, now you two. Kiss and make up.

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

Disney could be doing the mail-order thing and be making the profit that those online sellers are getting. "Shipping and Handling" adds up to a lot.

Not to mention the 25-30% markup that the online stores get.

mousepod · 03-26-2005, 06:03 PM

I understand why Disney doesn't merchandise the product outside of the resorts - the foot traffic is high and the idea of a guest "discovering" something special might lead to more impulse shopping. Disney is clearly not stupid when it comes to merchandising.
I also think that there's nothing basically wrong with shopping sites and on-line resellers. They charge a fee for obtaining goods for lazy people. In the age of internet shopping, most B&M stores do the same thing.
What bugs me about the online sites selling currently available park stuff is that they don't make it clear that all of the merchandise is available through Disney mail-order. They also don't list the official retail cost of the product they're reselling. That might not be wrong, but it's tacky.
I just ordered a book and a dvd from WDW mail-order. My cost, including shipping was $105.90. If I bought the same goods from laughing place, my cost would have been $141.96. That's quite a mark-up.
Rather than complain about this, though, I'm going to do something about it. Starting with the next MousePod, I'm going to suggest that all of my listeners who are interested in buying Park merchandise go to lp, check out what they want, and call Disney mail-order. Simple as that.

Kevy Baby · 03-26-2005, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mousepod

I also think that there's nothing basically wrong with shopping sites and on-line resellers. They charge a fee for obtaining goods for lazy people.

Well, I would guess that a vast majority of the people buying from LP and MS don't live near a Disney Resort. If I lived in Montana and really wanted a Shag Tiki shirt, I think the $12 markup plus shipping and handling would be significantly less than the plane ticket, transportation and admission (OK, save the $50 and buy from WOD).

€uroMeinke · 03-26-2005, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

Well, I would guess that a vast majority of the people buying from LP and MS don't live near a Disney Resort. If I lived in Montana and really wanted a Shag Tiki shirt, I think the $12 markup plus shipping and handling would be significantly less than the plane ticket, transportation and admission (OK, save the $50 and buy from WOD).

Right, but I believe MousePod was refering to the fact that Disney does do mail order (Deliver Ears?), they just don't catalogue and market the items in the park. That's the "value added" to the online stores.

Ghoulish Delight · 03-26-2005, 06:58 PM

My gut says that the market for park-specific merchandise outside of the parks themselves is not particularly huge. It's there, but most people only want park mechandise if they're at a park. So while Disney makes it available, it doesn't make much sense for them to put up the overhead to catalog and advertise. But if some 3rd party wants to cater to that niche, the merch. sales generated for Disney are gravy, with no extra overhead. Seems like win-win to me.

Not Afraid · 03-26-2005, 07:08 PM

Well, Disney allows it. It is no secret that LP and MP have a "shopping service" - LP is out of WDW and MP is out of DLR. For people in the midwest who collect anteana balls, this is about their only route. There is a lot of merchandise on these sites the people don't even notice in the parks. MP also has a sister site called Charming Shoppe for non-park, licensed collectables. There's some cross over there, but not a lot.

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mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	I understand why Disney doesn't merchandise the product outside of the resorts - the foot traffic is high and the idea of a guest "discovering" something special might lead to more impulse shopping. Disney is clearly not stupid when it comes to merchandising. I also think that there's nothing basically wrong with shopping sites and on-line resellers. They charge a fee for obtaining goods for lazy people. In the age of internet shopping, most B&M stores do the same thing. What bugs me about the online sites selling currently available park stuff is that they don't make it clear that all of the merchandise is available through Disney mail-order. They also don't list the official retail cost of the product they're reselling. That might not be wrong, but it's tacky. I just ordered a book and a dvd from WDW mail-order. My cost, including shipping was $105.90. If I bought the same goods from laughing place, my cost would have been $141.96. That's quite a mark-up. Rather than complain about this, though, I'm going to do something about it. Starting with the next MousePod, I'm going to suggest that all of my listeners who are interested in buying Park merchandise go to lp, check out what they want, and call Disney mail-order. Simple as that. __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	My gut says that the market for park-specific merchandise outside of the parks themselves is not particularly huge. It's there, but most people only want park mechandise if they're at a park. So while Disney makes it available, it doesn't make much sense for them to put up the overhead to catalog and advertise. But if some 3rd party wants to cater to that niche, the merch. sales generated for Disney are gravy, with no extra overhead. Seems like win-win to me. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	Well, Disney allows it. It is no secret that LP and MP have a "shopping service" - LP is out of WDW and MP is out of DLR. For people in the midwest who collect anteana balls, this is about their only route. There is a lot of merchandise on these sites the people don't even notice in the parks. MP also has a sister site called Charming Shoppe for non-park, licensed collectables. There's some cross over there, but not a lot.
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