The Schiavo issue

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Betty

How can you say this and yet not trust the 19 (or 23?) courts that have ruled on this already?

Note: I have not said a word about the court rulings. Not one- other than if she had spoken against the ruling it was court ordered execution. I also did not support the congressional action. I was the one who said Jeb ought to give it up already- you are ascribing an opinion to me that I don't even have.

I distrust the husband, I think the whole thing is horrid- but nowhere have I said I agreed nor disagreed with the courts. I don't know enough to do so-

I feel for the parents- and I think the whole thing is painful and awful to witness.

Is that clearer?

(side note- I don't think you can assume that using the word lucid was anything more than a poor choice of words- a mistake as it were and not automatically deliberate)

I also see no one is willing to tackle the question I asked above-

[scaeagles]

I think it is done. The Supreme court will not issue an order - news just in.

[Nephythys]

It's time to let it go- as horrible as it is, as creepy as the husband is, it is just time to let it go.

[Nephythys]

On the flip side GD- there are many people who feel that is exactly what the court is doing- carrying out an execution.

This mess is so subjective and emotional-

My last wish on it- that she dies faster than they predict so it can end. Then maybe people can find peace.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

On the flip side GD- there are many people who feel that is exactly what the court is doing- carrying out an execution.

If the government had stayed out of it to begin with; if her parents had reconized her husbands rights as next-of-kin to begin with the courts would have never gotten involved and everyone who feels this is a court ordered execution couldn't have possiblay felt that way, since it was a private decision made by her legal next of kin. The way it should have been all along.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

If the government had stayed out of it to begin with; if her parents had reconized her husbands rights as next-of-kin to begin with the courts would have never gotten involved and everyone who feels this is a court ordered execution couldn't have possiblay felt that way, since it was a private decision made by her legal next of kin. The way it should have been all along.

And if that was the case- then maybe it should have been done a long time ago. Then there would not be an issue would there- if Michael had been so intent on carrying out her wishes-

All I said was some people felt that way- my previous post continues to be taken out of context.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

And if that was the case- then maybe it should have been done a long time ago. Then there would not be an issue would there- if Michael had been so intent on carrying out her wishes-

He tried to have it removed a long time ago but her parents fought him at every turn! That discussion is on page 2 or 3 I think.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

He tried to have it removed a long time ago but her parents fought him at every turn! That discussion is on page 2 or 3 I think.

Careful - not until several years after she entered this state did he have his remembrance that she had said she wouldn't want to live this way.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

On the flip side GD- there are many people who feel that is exactly what the court is doing- carrying out an execution.

Sorry, but those people are wrong. The courts are not ordering her death. The ruling isn't, "Kill her." The ruling is, "Allow Michael Schiavo, the legal guardian, to make whatever decission he feels." There's a huge difference. The courts have upheld personal freedom to decide the fate of a loved one in an extraordinary medical condition. Any other decission would have been the courts and government intevening in a private matter.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Sorry, but those people are wrong. The courts are not ordering her death. The ruling isn't, "Kill her." The ruling is, "Allow Michael Schiavo, the legal guardian, to make whatever decission he feels." There's a huge difference. The courts have upheld personal freedom to decide the fate of a loved one in an extraordinary medical condition. Any other decission would have been the courts and government intevening in a private matter.

Of course you would say that-

It doesn't change the fact that some people feel exactly that way- including the Pope.