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[scaeagles]

I would disagree in part. Biden was clearly trying to bring into question McCain's motives, particularly on 4 billion in tax breaks for oil companies. He was saying McCain is in the back pocket of big oil (or big business in general). He pointed out the 4 billion several times in that context.

I have no problem with that spin....it's what politicians do. But don't tell me you aren't questioning motives. Of course Biden was, particularly in that example.

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

[i]t's what politicians do.

I think the process would be improved if each side explained their voting record, statements, etc., with this answer. E.g.:

Biden/Hillary said Obama wasn't ready because they were running for president--what the f*ck do you expect them to say?

McCain/Obama voted this way or that because it led to greater cooperation on something else, because you can't be a total wild card, etc.

Obama talked about political realities to some extent in his book, but I haven't heard him or anyone else say it while the cameras were rolling.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Biden had concrete examples, facts. Palin had generalities. She sounded and looked nervous. She said "I'm not answering that." She winked and condescended, exactly like McCain does.

Again....please, oh mysterious fates, please let the American people see what I'm seeing.

[scaeagles]

I didn't pick up on any nervousness until about the last 15 minutes when she completely gacked a question on the role and powers of the VP. Then I thought she recovered.

She did say "I'm not answering that", which I kind of liked....they both didn't answer questions a lot and for her to admit once that she just wasn't going to answer it was refreshing.

Her mannerisms don't bug me, but they bug others, and I get that. For some reason I can't stand watching John Edwards speak for the same reasons, but it doesn't bother other people.

Because expectations for her were lower than expectations in any debate I can ever think of, I don't think they populace as a whole will be seeing those things. I think people who have already made up their minds will see what you see, just as those on my side won't see it that way at all.

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[Betty]

I heard on the radio that this whole thing seemed like a Disney movie. They get the home town gal in as VP, something happens and she's now the unlikely president using her hometown ways to win everyone over and have a happy hollywood movie ending.

kind of creepy.

[bewitched]

Originally Posted by Betty

I heard on the radio that this whole thing seemed like a Disney movie. They get the home town gal in as VP, something happens and she's now the unlikely president using her hometown ways to win everyone over and have a happy hollywood movie ending.

kind of creepy.

I think someone already posted this somewhere else.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by bewitched

I think someone already posted this somewhere else.

That'd be me, in the McCain thread.

[Gemini Cricket]

In case anyone missed it, here is the Full Vice Presidential Debate.

[bewitched]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

That'd be me, in the McCain thread.

Ah, sorry. I would've credited you but I couldn't remember where I'd seen it.