Star Trek

[innerSpaceman]

Star Trek Hoth was one of my favorite scenes ... until the Scotty coincidence.

It had the "Just Like Star Trek" of Kirk vs. Aliens, and the "All About Star Trek" of new Kirk meets Spock Prime.

Reminds me of what I love about the Wrath of Khan / Search for Spock two-parter. The first movie was so bloody much like Star Trek it made me squee. And the 2nd movie was not like Star Trek at all, but All About Star Trek - with grandstanding by Sulu and by Uhura that was so ultimately their characters, but they never acted that way in the series - - and a plot that ... without any Leonard Nimoy on screen till the last minute ... was all about Spock and Spockisms (pon farr, etc.) - - and over-the-top stuff like mutinous stealing the Enterprise, and the (first) destruction of the Enterprise that would never have happened in the series, but made fans all gooey.

In fact, the latter film played more like fan fic that authentic Star Trek, but it was good fan fic and I loved it.


The Spock Prime and New Coke, er Kirk scene on Hoth was very fan fic. I liked it for that.

[Ghoulish Delight]

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[Moonliner]

Here I am, late to the party as usual.

I'll add my vote to the I enjoyed it enough I was willing to overlook the glaring plot/effects issues camp.

My $0.02....

1. The destruction of Vulcan: I suffered from delayed stress syndrome on that one. My initial reaction was, yeah great this is a time travel movie, it'll get fixed at the end. Then somewhere later in the movie than I'll admit, It hit me. OMFG! They are not going to fix this. It's really gone.

2. I have neglected my kids education, When they were getting ready to skydive out of the shuttle and the unknown actor donned the red armor I leaned over to Moonie Jr. and whispered: "never wear red" he did not know why I said that.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Where's child protective services when you need 'em?

[scaeagles]

At least your kids will see it with you. Mine thnk I'm a geek for saying I want to see it. Poisoned by their evil mother, they are.

[Gemini Cricket]

I saw Star Trek yesterday and really liked it.

With the exception of the red ice planet monster (which looked like something from the Star Wars prequels), I liked almost everything about it. I mean, why would a monster on a snow planet be red? Evolution-wise. I guess sci-fi doesn't necessarily have to follow any sort of rules but a red colored predator seems like it could be easily avoided by its prey.

I liked the casting choices. Young Spock and young Kirk were both hot and not bad actors. It took me awhile to place that young Bones was in 2 of the Lord of the Rings movies. I didn't mind Uhura, I thought she was gorgeous and had that retro style going, nice!

The beginning of the film was truly excellent. Such a great setup to get you sucked into the film. Although, I don't know if I'd calmly be discussing baby names 15 seconds before I died, but oh well.

I liked the homages that tied this movie in with the others. The red shirt guy, the "dammit Jim" moments, Sulu the Fencer, the horny green chick, etc. I thought they did the right amounts of that. They didn't go overboard like they did in the Star Wars prequels.

My goodness Nimoy looked freakin' old. Just saying.

I had heard from someone that a member of the original cast was going to show up in the film. I was glad it was Nimoy and not Shatner. Shatner is a walking cartoon of himself now...

Winona... hmm. She looked better with old makeup in this film than in Scissorhands. I wonder if she stole her costume after her scenes were done. I have a feeling she will be back somehow. The transporter beam did seem to grab her before she fell. Maybe they'll find out she is stored on the Enterprise harddrive somewhere...

I didn't mind the destruction of Vulcan. Why? Because it's Star Trek. It can easily be undone at some point. People come back to life, there is time travel... I think if the trekkers/trekkies complain enough, they'll figure a way to undo it.

I like the whole rebooting of the series. The film franchise was pretty much dead after the last awful Trek movie. This movie was a heart defibrillator for Star Trek.

I liked Simon Pegg's Scotty. So funny. Love him. I must say the tube scene freaked me out. It gave me claustrophobia.

Was it me or was the young Spock just barely able to do he whole Spock eyebrow raise?

Anyway, I'm glad I saw it. I may see it again.

Not sure how I feel about them using the song 'Sabotage' at that one point in the film. I like the song, I like the sequence (except for the kid's bad blond wig) but I wasn't sure it was Star Trek-y... it played off as kind of Michael Bay-ish.

Anyone catch the Obama moment at the end? The whole "we'll rescue you if you want" thing? It felt deliberate to me. It reminded me of the whole "unclench your fists" Obama thang.


ETA: I have to go back and read through this thread. I have avoided it because I hadn't seen the film yet. There are a lot of beefy posts in this thread. It may take me awhile to absorb it all...

[mousepod]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Not sure how I feel about them using the song 'Sabotage' at that one point in the film. I like the song, I like the sequence (except for the kid's bad blond wig) but I wasn't sure it was Star Trek-y... it played off as kind of Michael Bay-ish.

The choice of "Sabotage" was a poke at Shatner and his famous outtake.

[Alex]

There seems to be a fair amount of buzz that the next Star Trek movie might involve Khan again.

As near as I can tell this seems to be reading too much into Abrams comments that while the new timeline avoids the limits of the canon it also doesn't mean that events are 100% different (though I'd argue that putting the entire crew together on the enterprise 15 years earlier will pretty dramtically change the entire sequence of exploration).

Regardless though, I'm curious what the general response is to the possibility of them going right back to that well? Personally, I think they should leave Khan alone.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Abraaaaaaaams!!!

[Moonliner]

In plotting the next movie I'd probably start with the question:

How would things change without the Vulcan's?

How strong is the Federation minus a few billion Vulcan's?

Would the Romulans make a move? The Klingons?

What happens when the remaining Vulcan's get the urge to swim back upstream to mate?


Etc...