Lost!

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Pirate Bill

My theory is that the numbers are just self referential. Let's see if I can explain:

Hurley uses the numbers and wins the lottery. Bad things happen to him so he begins to believe the numbers are cursed. (We keep seeing the numbers pop up everywhere but that's just coincidental or people see what they want to see or the producers are messing with our heads.) He goes to Australia and ends up on the island where he finds the numbers marked on the outside of the hatch and are being used as a code to reset the 108 minute clock.

Hurley goes back in time to 1974. "The incident" occurs requiring them to enter numbers into a computer to reset a 108 minute clock. Hurley chooses to use the cursed number sequence because he was "supposed to." (This is an unchangeable time line, not the Back To The Future type of time line.) In order to keep the number sequence available for all generations to use he etches it on the outside of the hatch and records it to tape to be broadcast by radio (that sounded an awful lot like Hurley's voice on the transmission the Frenchies picked up).

Hurley's friend from the mental institution (can't remember his name) hear's the numbers on the radio broadcast. Something eventually causes him to go insane (possibly number and/or island related). He goes to the loony bin constantly repeating those numbers. Hurley uses the numbers and wins the lottery.

I think you've got it..........once you learn how to think in a circle this show is a lot easier to understand...

[Pirate Bill]

I'm listening to the Lost Podcast w/ Jay & Jack (show 4.16). I've attached an interesting side-by-side comparison that a caller mentioned on the podcast. On the left is Ramses II. On the right is the statue from Lost.

[JWBear]

Hmmm... And ol' Ramses's legs are broken off right about where the 4 toed statue was broken....

[Betty]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Hmmm... And ol' Ramses's legs are broken off right about where the 4 toed statue was broken....

I wonder how many toes Richard has.

[bewitched]

Originally Posted by Pirate Bill

I'm listening to the Lost Podcast w/ Jay & Jack (show 4.16). I've attached an interesting side-by-side comparison that a caller mentioned on the podcast. On the left is Ramses II. On the right is the statue from Lost.

Originally Posted by JWBear

Hmmm... And ol' Ramses's legs are broken off right about where the 4 toed statue was broken....

The decorative carving doesn't match up. Also, I don't believe that Ramses II was depicted with hair in the statue you've pictured. (nor does Rameses have pointed, doglike ears)



I think a better choice for the statue (which appears to have pointed ears) is Anubus, one of the Egyptian gods of the afterlife whose specific role was to watch over the dead and guide lost souls on their trip to the afterlife. Anubus is half human/half jackel (which would also explain the 4 toes) and carries a flail, which the statue appears to be holding in his right hand.

And how about this (which I just thought of while typing):

What if the island is the Egyptian afterlife and the Others are, in fact dead, ancient Egyptians (which would explain why they don't age; they are whatever age they were when they died-- it would also explain Richard's eyeliner)? The Egyptians considered those who reached the afterlife to be immortal. Looking up Aaru (the afterlife) on Wiki, it is often depicted as a series of islands (which I didn't remember, but hey...). Interestingly, the gates a soul has to pass through to get to the afterlife are guarded by demons (smoke monster, anyone?) There are several other Egyptian gods the statue could depict such as Bast or Mut that have pointed ears and are male (female gods generally had rounded shoulders; that said, I'm just guessing it's male) but they don't fit as well into what we know so far.

It may also explain why Ben killed Locke...so that he could be eternal leader of the Others.

Finally, I think it may explain why the Islanders can't have babies/die. In Egyptian mythology, whether or not you go to the afterlife and become eternal depends on the weight of your sins. If you have little to no sin, you go to Aaru. But what if you go to Aaru and then sin (say, by killing or purging a bunch of people)? Maybe the punishment is no babies in eternal world. As an aside, I don't remember anyone saying that the original Dharma people couldn't have babies (and as Sawyer said to Juliet, "maybe whatever made the Others unable to have babies hasn't happened yet"), we just see the 21st century Others as not able to have babies. Also a good explanation for why Claire and Sun were able to have their babies...because they weren't Others.

Now I want to go look up the hieroglyphs we've seen around the island to see if any of the symbols depict specific gods.

[BarTopDancer]

When did we see the full statue?

There is so much to remember!

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

When did we see the full statue?

There is so much to remember!

After John fell down the well. In the first episode that we saw that happen, they showed Sawyer holding the rope, coming out of solid ground, then they cut away. Then they showed the scene again in the next episode (or was there an episode in between?), this time, instead of cutting away, we see them look up and see the statue. Then they flash immediately (I think that's the last flash).

[Ghoulish Delight]

So I'm reading a biography of Timothy Leary. There are a lot of names in it, I'm pretty bad at retaining names when I'm reading biographies. So when I reached the period in Leary's life when he became a faculty member of Harvard's psychology department, I assumed the familiar name of a fellow faculty member and ally to Leary through his controversial psychedelics experiments was someone from earlier in Leary's life that I had forgotten about.

It took me about 50 pages for it to click.

Richard Alpert.

Interestingly, the real Alpert went on to become a spiritual leader, known as Baba Ram Dass, and taught, among several other things, Buddhism. With the show's many other references to Buddhism, I don't suppose that's mere coincidence, though I assume it's more simply a clever nod and doesn't imply that the character has any actual relation to the real Alpert.

Ram Dass was also apparently the inspiration for the roller skating guru disguise in Fletch.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Holy crap, I think Pirate Bill figured it out.

Now STOP THAT, I want the series to be a surprise.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Repeat!?! Booo.

Stupid March Madness.

I'm glad I watched a bit of it though. This time I noticed Amy pull something (earplugs) out of the control box of the sonic wall. I was wondering how she could have been hearing perfectly fine up until then.