One really good reason not to legalize prostitution - Page 3

Cadaverous Pallor · 02-02-2005, 11:17 AM

Have you ever heard of anyone being forced into being a butcher or an exterminator?

Morrigoon · 02-02-2005, 11:43 AM

No, because they aren't in "the industry/field" of the people who find it immoral.

It gets trickier, I would guess, for a vegetarian or Hindu chef, if they're offered a job at Ruth's Chris. I do wonder how that's handled.

Cadaverous Pallor · 02-02-2005, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

It gets trickier, I would guess, for a vegetarian or Hindu chef, if they're offered a job at Ruth's Chris. I do wonder how that's handled.

I'm sure they aren't offered a job at Ruth's Chris. Why would they want to hire someone that doesn't cook what they cook? They would obviously have it on their resume.

Morrigoon · 02-02-2005, 01:14 PM

Fair enough. Too bad this doesn't work as well for brothels, desperate for workers. Especially since some men will *do* just about anyone.

Ghoulish Delight · 02-02-2005, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Fair enough. Too bad this doesn't work as well for brothels, desperate for workers. Especially since some men will *do* just about anyone.

Again, how hard is it to clasify "sex industry" as a separate industry? No one now is being forced to work as a stripper, exotic dancer, Hooters waitress, etc. Heck, I'd be surprised if anyone has been forced to even take a non-stripping job at a strip club.

Moonliner · 02-02-2005, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Again, how hard is it to clasify "sex industry" as a separate industry? No one now is being forced to work as a stripper, exotic dancer, Hooters waitress, etc. Heck, I'd be surprised if anyone has been forced to even take a non-stripping job at a strip club.

Actually that's exactly the situation that caused Scaeagles to start this tread. Here is a quote from the article:

"A 25-year-old waitress who turned down a job providing "sexual services'' at a brothel in Berlin faces possible cuts to her unemployment benefit under laws introduced this year."

Ghoulish Delight · 02-02-2005, 01:45 PM

Notice where that is..it's in Germany. I'm talking about here. They've obviously got something screwed up in Germany, but I've never heard of anyone being forced into stripping here, so if stripping is legal and that's not a concern, than there's no reason it should be a concern when considering the legalization of prostitution.

Moonliner · 02-02-2005, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Notice where that is..it's in Germany. I'm talking about here. They've obviously got something screwed up in Germany, but I've never heard of anyone being forced into stripping here, so if stripping is legal and that's not a concern, than there's no reason it should be a concern when considering the legalization of prostitution.

Ahh, I missed the change of venue so to speak.

Much as I hate to agree with GD, I really don't think it would be an issue stateside. Right now we are still a nation of entitlements. Unemployed slackers only have to apply for jobs. They have no incentive to actually take any jobs offered to them so they can easily stay on the dole for years.

Under that system, no one would be forced into unsavory working conditions.

Ghoulish Delight · 02-02-2005, 02:06 PM

Well, not really true. Your unemployemnt benefits can be revoked if you refuse a job offer from within your industry. But 1) it has to be in your industry, and 2) you can petition and they will continue your benefits if you give a valid reason for not accepting the offer. For instance, I was offered a job in my industry, however not until the person who would be my manager revoked a verbal offer without telling me, refused to return my phone calls, offered the position to someone else without telling me, and only after that other person declined, gave me an offer in writing. I explained to the EDD that I didn't feel obligated to take a job working for someone who had outright lied to me, and they allowed me to continue receiving benefits. I suspect it would not be particularly difficult for someone to say, "I refuse to be a hooker."

scaeagles · 02-02-2005, 02:18 PM

Well, I suppose my thread title was not what I intended. I just thought the story was outrageous - it is - and so I hooked (pun not intended) posters with that as the thread title. In Nevada, prostitution is legal in certain counties. Has been for a long time. I don't recall hearing of any such thing like this happening there.

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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	No, because they aren't in "the industry/field" of the people who find it immoral. It gets trickier, I would guess, for a vegetarian or Hindu chef, if they're offered a job at Ruth's Chris. I do wonder how that's handled.
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02-02-2005, 01:14 PM	#24
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Fair enough. Too bad this doesn't work as well for brothels, desperate for workers. Especially since some men will do just about anyone.
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Notice where that is..it's in Germany. I'm talking about here. They've obviously got something screwed up in Germany, but I've never heard of anyone being forced into stripping here, so if stripping is legal and that's not a concern, than there's no reason it should be a concern when considering the legalization of prostitution. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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02-02-2005, 02:06 PM	#29
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Well, not really true. Your unemployemnt benefits can be revoked if you refuse a job offer from within your industry. But 1) it has to be in your industry, and 2) you can petition and they will continue your benefits if you give a valid reason for not accepting the offer. For instance, I was offered a job in my industry, however not until the person who would be my manager revoked a verbal offer without telling me, refused to return my phone calls, offered the position to someone else without telling me, and only after that other person declined, gave me an offer in writing. I explained to the EDD that I didn't feel obligated to take a job working for someone who had outright lied to me, and they allowed me to continue receiving benefits. I suspect it would not be particularly difficult for someone to say, "I refuse to be a hooker." __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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02-02-2005, 02:18 PM	#30
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Well, I suppose my thread title was not what I intended. I just thought the story was outrageous - it is - and so I hooked (pun not intended) posters with that as the thread title. In Nevada, prostitution is legal in certain counties. Has been for a long time. I don't recall hearing of any such thing like this happening there.
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