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Old 10-14-2006, 02:14 AM   #21
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Well, with or without a witness, I stand by the eloquence of my previous statements (that is, if I may be so bold as to paraphrase the great, Blackford Oakes, during his run for the NY mayorship)

Time was co-started by the great fascist and short order cook, Henry Luce. And Henry, boy, he was a Republican of some reknown -- what! His scent still marks the pages of Time. Its true, I tells ya! For I myself have smelt the glossy pages of the magazine. I have pressed my nose to the paper. I have breathed in the pain. Just as an animal brought to slaughter is thought to secrete its final moment of agony into the meat (and through the meat into our souls), so did Luce leave his tortured secretions into the inner workings of Time Magazine. The neo-cons call it the liberal media because the conservatives feed off deception. What is black is white and what is white is all right with the U.S. Senator from Virginia. Deception! ... Good gracious, man, why else would Fox news list Foley as a (D) on the bottom news scroll? And why would anybody support a news organisation that would do so? I ask this not as a Democrat but as a human being, Ladies and Gentleman of the jury.

Amen. Can I get a witness?
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Old 10-14-2006, 05:58 AM   #22
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Old 10-14-2006, 06:55 AM   #23
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conservatives feed off deception. ... Good gracious, man, why else would Fox news list Foley as a (D) on the bottom news scroll?
Liberals feed off deception....Good gracious, man, why else would CBS and Dan Rather run with a story based on forged documents?
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Old 10-14-2006, 08:26 AM   #24
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Because they were stupid? I hardly consider that deception- it's was sheer stupidity.

I second that witness, Tref!
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Old 10-14-2006, 08:36 AM   #25
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Not to mention that CBS publically apologized and terminated 4 employees as a result. Don't recall hearing anyone from Fox losing their job over their little mistake. Hell, they were probably given a pat on the back.
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Old 10-14-2006, 09:13 AM   #26
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I think there is a pretty big difference in scale between a D or an R by a name and putting out forged documents as fact.
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Time was co-started by the great fascist and short order cook, Henry Luce. And Henry, boy, he was a Republican of some reknown -- what!
Ok, he was definitely are prominent Republican (though more in the Nixonian socially liberal school) but where does the "great fascist" part come from? Are we talking about one of the Synarchist conspiracy theories here (or perhaps simply because he was a member of Skull and Bones at Yale)? Or just using fascist and Republican as synonyms?

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His scent still marks the pages of Time.
This is why I personally won't go near Life, House & Home, or Sport Illustrated, three other magazines he founded. The fascist stench of the NFL reporting is just too strong.

I'm afraid I'll have to withhold my amen until I learn if there is something fascist about Luce of which I am unaware.
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Old 10-14-2006, 11:05 AM   #28
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... Good gracious, man, why else would Fox news list Foley as a (D) on the bottom news scroll?
Maybe Fox was punishing Foley by calling him a Democrat
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Old 10-14-2006, 07:40 PM   #29
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And CNN just accidentally put big red "X"s over Bush while he was speaking. Happened a couple of times, I think.

I guess I would suppose that since a former speaker of the House was indeed a democrat named Foley, perhaps it could have been a simple mistake? No...much better to have conspiracy theories, like Rove being the mastermind behind the Plame "outing" as a payback for not being doing what they wanted.

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