Help Justify Advanced Placement

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by DisneyFan25863

GD, maybe he is talking about the SAT II Subject tests?

I'm guessing he's using "Advanced Placement" in a more literal sense (as in being placed in an advanced class) rather than referring to any test. From what I remember from conversations with other east coasters, they don't have specific classes geared towards the placement exams, whatever they're called (it's not the SAT II's, it's some other acronym test that we don't have in California), they just take honors courses and then take the tests.

Also...did you take all 14 courses or just take tests on subjects you never took a class in?

Micro econ was the only one that I didn't take the course for, I took the course for all the rest.

[Prudence]

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

Maybe that was from law school.

Definitely from law school. Although it doesn't show up that much for us. Our school is so writing-focused that actually talking about IRAC is seen as a bit simplistic. We basically all know what to do, so when some kiss-up says during exam review, "do you want us to use IRAC?" we tend to look at him (it's always a him) as if he's sprouted a second head. No, not a second head - something really useless. Like a second appendix.

This derail brought to by a lack of sleep, too much grease, and a raging headache.

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

Ah yes, and I've been unlearning it ever since

PS - I believe the arrest came after we graduated, I'm pretty sure we did the Chemistry AP Test

No, I know he was arrested after we graduated. (I just checked the Megan's Law web site, and I can't tell if that's him.)

If you did AP chemistry, you did it without me.

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

If you did AP chemistry, you did it without me.

Hmmmm - Damn false memories, don't feel like digging up the records - Maybe it was Biology? Ontogeny recapitulates Phylogeny, osmosis, ketosis, halitosis and all that skulduggery

[katiesue]

We only had one AP class offered, English. Since our school was a little limited we could take Community College Classes for things not offered. I did Trig and Calculus there for High School Credit (and they also gave me college credit which they weren't supposed to but I'm not telling). This also worked out great because you could take the classes at night or over the summer. By senior year I only had two classes that I actually had to take for credit - the rest was all electives.

[Capt Jack]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

My son wants to take honors Chemistry as a High School Freshman. To get into the class he has to write a letter saying why he should be allowed to take it.

Any suggestions?

heres an idea. just a lil note stating

gIve mE wHAt I waNT and I'll gO away


works almost every time

[3894]

I don't know anything about AP science exams. I do know a lot about how college profs think of the AP English and language exams.

Basically, college Freshman English is a remedial course. If you take the AP English and exam and do well enough, you place out of the remedial Freshman English. No one is saying that AP English is a college-level course. They are saying that Freshman English is not.

See?

[Alex]

At least at the UW, remedial courses were not available for credit (for example, at least back then, calculus was the lowest math course you could take for credit). Some were offered but only to get you up to requirements.

AP tests resulted in college credit from the University of Washington so to some degree they were valuing them above the remedial courses. Of course, I found the English department to be irredeemably horrible so I that still isn't setting the bar high

But then of course I am going to run into problems with any faculty that seemed to worship Foucoult. And then there was that time my TA spent an hour talking about feminist physics and chemistry. That's all irrelevant to AP tests, though. I just can't think about the UW English Department without getting riled all over again.

[Moonliner]

Thanks for all the helpful advice.

We don't seem to have "AP" courses so I think our honors course is basically the same thing. It certainly has a reputation for breaking students and we are in an area with just a few type-A overachievers. Apparently we are, at least in part, the school "Beverly Hills 90210" was based on.

I never watched the show, but if there was a geeky band kid that rode his bike past all the dudes in BMW's that would be mine.

[3894]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

AP tests resulted in college credit from the University of Washington so to some degree they were valuing them above the remedial courses.

Or it was a kind of a bribe to lure the trusting lambs to take more courses in that subject matter.

But then of course I am going to run into problems with any faculty that seemed to worship Foucoult.

Foucault. I did a Ph.D. in 20th cen. French Lit at Berkeley and Stanford in the '80's. Foucault, Derrida, Lacan were our holy trinity. Personally, I liked René Girard's stuff a lot better.