Ann Coulter's F Bomb

[Gn2Dlnd]

So succinct.

So not the topic.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd

So succinct.

So not the topic.

Sure it is. It's the old, "Everyone else is doing it" defense.

[wendybeth]

Not only is it the 'everyone else is doing it' defense, it actually makes the perpetrator a victim. Hate speech is wrong, and anyone who indulges in it has to suffer the consequences. Ann Coulter has been pretty out there for a long while now, and with the backlash against the Republicans I seriously doubt they are going to let her ramble on as their representitive political pundit.

[Tramspotter]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

Not only is it the 'everyone else is doing it' defense, it actually makes the perpetrator a victim. Hate speech is wrong, and anyone who indulges in it has to suffer the consequences. Ann Coulter has been pretty out there for a long while now, and with the backlash against the Republicans I seriously doubt they are going to let her ramble on as their representitive political pundit.

Hate speach is wrong MMMMMkkkayyy.

So now she is also a perpetrator eh? Should we inform the speach police shave her head and make her do the perp walk or is just making fun of the way she looks and everyone putting in thier 2cents about what a bitch she is enough?

And not to discount GD's keen analysis of my point but just curious as counter-culture warriors do you ever think damn that just went over the line?

Now please excuse me I have to put on my "How dare I wear this F*cking shirt in front of your F*cking children" Tee shirt and walk around downtown disney as I sing the I'm just a Jr high Prom dumpster baby song.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Tramspotter

Hate speach is wrong MMMMMkkkayyy.

So now she is also a perpetrator eh? Should we inform the speach police shave her head and make her do the perp walk or is just making fun of the way she looks and everyone putting in thier 2cents about what a bitch she is enough?

And not to discount GD's keen analysis of my point but just curious as counter-culture warriors do you ever think damn that just went over the line?

Now please excuse me I have to put on my "How dare I wear this F*cking shirt in front of your F*cking children" Tee shirt and walk around downtown disney as I sing the I'm just a Jr high Prom dumpster baby song.

So, are you telling us that you think it's ok to use hate speach? Does that mean that if someone were to use the "n" word to describe Bush, it would be ok with you? (Or is it only ok in Coulter's case because the word used was a pejorative commonly used against gays?)

[Ghoulish Delight]

What Alex said. Just because you CAN say something doesn't mean you shouldn't be rightly called an insensitive, small-minded jerk if you choose to exercise that right.

[JWBear]

I agree completely. But, it sounds to me that TS doesn't think there should even be social consequences to what she said.

[wendybeth]

TS, you go on and where whatever offensive shirt you feel like, but accept the consequences if there are negative repercussions.

Visible mojo for Alex.

[Tramspotter]

Originally Posted by JWBear

I agree completely. But, it sounds to me that TS doesn't think there should even be social consequences to what she said.

You agree completely that there should be no legal ban eh? Yet you use the term "hate speach" and I wonder have no problems with existing "hate laws" and creating additional laws which add "extra" penaltys for anyone who it can be proven has a proven previous dislike for a paticular group yes?

Regardless of legal, how far would you guys wish push the social backlash against someone like Colter? Publicaly let known your own distaste for her use of that language? A lifting of the usual social contract by making ad hominem attacks beyond what you would of other public figures? Write in to demand she be taken off the air depriving her of livelyhood? Protests that would make her fear for her safty? Just wondering

It also sounds to me JBW that making your own comments and agreeing with others who denounce her is not enough for you. Do you wish to bring the same social presure to bear on those who aren't as offended as you are by her comments or worse would dismiss them? What is your minumum level of indignation just so I know, not that I would chose to display it for your benifit. You seem awful eger to cast some sort of shadow on me personaly. I find that sort of mindset as distastefull and well poisoning as any particular slur or epithet I ever heard used for real real and not for play play.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Tramspotter

You agree completely that there should be no legal ban eh? Yet you use the term "hate speach" and I wonder have no problems with existing "hate laws" and creating additional laws which add "extra" penaltys for anyone who it can be proven has a proven previous dislike for a paticular group yes?

I have no problems (and fully support) hate speech laws. They are intended to increase to punishment for violent crimes that are the result of prejudice, bigotry, and hate. These laws do not apply in Ms Coulters case – she did not commit an act of physical violence.

Originally Posted by Tramspotter

Regardless of legal, how far would you guys wish push the social backlash against someone like Colter? Publicaly let known your own distaste for her use of that language?

Yes.

Originally Posted by Tramspotter

A lifting of the usual social contract by making ad hominem attacks beyond what you would of other public figures?

Ad hominem? Hardly. To reply to a nasty and inappropriate remark by condemning said remark is not an ad hominem attack.

And yes, I would react the same way if any other public figure made a remark of that type.

Originally Posted by Tramspotter

Write in to demand she be taken off the air depriving her of livelyhood?

Yes.

Originally Posted by Tramspotter

Protests that would make her fear for her safty?

No.

Originally Posted by Tramspotter

Just wondering

It also sounds to me JBW that making your own comments and agreeing with others who denounce her is not enough for you. Do you wish to bring the same social presure to bear on those who aren't as offended as you are by her comments or worse would dismiss them? What is your minumum level of indignation just so I know, not that I would chose to display it for your benifit. You seem awful eger to cast some sort of shadow on me personaly. I find that sort of mindset as distastefull and well poisoning as any particular slur or epithet I ever heard used for real real and not for play play.

I’m not trying to cast a shadow on you – just trying to interpret your post as best I can. You seem to be (to me, at least) defending her actions; as if you agreed with her and believe there was nothing wrong with what she said. If this is not what you meant, I apologize.