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Old 08-12-2008, 06:50 PM   #21
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Most of their methodology sucks, but I just like them blowing stuff up - that is what the show is about!

The water heater episode was one of my favorites.
That one was spectacular.

I also like the one where they blew up the cement mixer. That was an explosion!
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Old 08-12-2008, 07:12 PM   #22
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She can easily make up for any flawed science.
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I don't watch them for great science. I watch them because they make me laugh. Incredibly entertaining.
Yep. Somewhat reasonable science, and at least they do the experiments. That's cool. And yeah, they make me laugh.

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I also like the one where they blew up the cement mixer. That was an explosion!
Oh, yeah, I liked that one. Not a myth I'd heard, but at that point I don't care. Boom!
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:00 AM   #23
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I saw P & T's BS a while ago and thought it was a riot. I'm guessing it's on a pay per view chanel, which is why I don't see it anymore.
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:24 AM   #24
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It's on Showtime.
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:53 AM   #25
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And DVD (at least that's how I've been watching them).
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:11 AM   #26
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I'm meh on the whole thing. In turns I start to like it, then get annoyed with Penn's sanctimonious tone. And the gratuitous nudity.
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:18 AM   #27
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I like the sanctimonious condescension. Many of the idiots involved need to encounter it more often instead of being coddled with "well, everybody is entitled to their view and therefore all views are equally valid" pats on the back.

But I can see it turning people off. Adam Savage (of Mythbusters) is, in private life, pretty active in the same woo debunking skeptic circles.
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:19 AM   #28
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And the gratuitous nudity.
I like it for that reason too!
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:25 AM   #29
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I like shows where they blow stuff up.

And show sharks.

But not blow up sharks.

I've heard that GWs don't like dolphins, because dolphins can kill GWs by ramming them in the gills. I completely agree though, the MB methodology was unpossible. But using real dolphins and seals as bait would not make for good TV.

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Old 08-13-2008, 10:34 AM   #30
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That's not the methodological problem I had. I don't really have a problem with their methodology being incomplete; it is a TV show doing informal study, I'm fine with that.

It is when they say their methodology is demonstrating something that it isn't. The one that got me with the dolphin/great white was at the end they said "to show that the great white really is put off by our fake dolphin we took it out of the water and look they went crazy for the bait." That in no way shows the great whites were put off by a dolphin, at most it shows they were put off by a previously inert object in the water suddenly moving towards them just as they were about to bite food. At least in the 20 minutes I watched they did nothing to show that the result is different if that object is shaped like a dolphin instead of just floating debris or something else. It isn't a big thing but they misrepresent what the value of what they're demonstrating on a regular basis.
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