South Park creators given signed photo of Saddam Hussein

[Alex]

Either it was done with a purpose (in which I tend to doubt it was useful in achieving that purpose but am willing to be proven wrong) or it was just done to be dicks to him.

Regardless of provocation simply doing some to be a dick is, well, dickish.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Alex

Either it was done with a purpose (in which I tend to doubt it was useful in achieving that purpose but am willing to be proven wrong) or it was just done to be dicks to him.

Regardless of provocation simply doing some to be a dick is, well, dickish.

Exactly. I think it's along the lines of "two wrongs don't make a right".

Also, let me restate - I have no issue with the episode of South Park, or the movie Team America and I have no issue with the picture (if it wasn't a forced autograph).

[innerSpaceman]

So, let me get this straight. It's ok if they play "These Boots Are Made for Walking" at top decibal 24/7 if the objective is to sleep deprive your captive for advanced interrogation techiniques, but it's not cool to play "Bigger Longer and UnCut" ad-infinitum if the purpose is to humiliate him?

[Morrigoon]

Per the Geneva Convention, I guess that would be right. Unless the "advanced interrogation techniques" are torture, which under Bush they probably were.

[Betty]

So... by that logic if the South Park movie was only played to keep him awake and not to humilate him that would be okay?

[innerSpaceman]

Yes. Which is why I think it's absurd everyone getting in an uproar about playing the movie over and over, but - aside from the recent "Torture" thread, which had like 2 replies - I haven't seen any panties in a bunch about similar and far worse techniques being used on more common prisoners.

Besides, no one's alleged Saddam was all Ludivico'd with toothpicks propping his eyes open while tied to a chair with his head in a vice. How, exactly, did they "make" him watch it? Was it projected on all four walls of his cell?

More than likely, he was made to listen to it, because you can't really escape sound. And if this particular sound was designed to humiliate rather than "advanced interrogate," please put that in the perspective of guard dogs, naked human pyramids, koran desecration, hoods and stress position and wires attached to the genitals.


Let's get a freaking grip about the South Park torture.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Yes. Which is why I think it's absurd everyone getting in an uproar about playing the movie over and over, but - aside from the recent "Torture" thread, which had like 2 replies - I haven't seen any panties in a bunch about similar and far worse techniques being used on more common prisoners.

That would be because you all were not celebrating the torture of prisoners in other threads I have seen.

Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

This is too freaking awesome!

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Hahahahahahahaha and HA!

Originally Posted by Pirate Bill

That sounds too good to be true. Please tell me it's not just an urban legend. If it's not true, then don't tell me. I want to go on believing.

Now if you want to post a thread laughing at and celebrating the treatment of prisoners in Abu Ghraib then yes, I suspect I would respond to that and do so much more fervently than I did this issue.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by Alex

Is it the worst thing in the world? No. I'd just prefer that people not go around trying to be dicks. I especially prefer that prison guards not be dicks to their prisoners. I even more prefer that they not torture them but I'm a dreamer and dream of a world in which I get both.

Same here.

I will admit that the thought of Hussein having to watch South Park is pretty damn funny. Reason being - he was a genocidal murderer, and if that's as bad as it gets, it works for me. Forcing Hitler to watch The Producers would be funny too. GODWIN, BIATCHES.

Now, making anyone watch anything hundreds of times, or full blast all night long, is cruel. If it truly were to this extent I would be unhappy with it, regardless of who is locked up in there.

All very subjective, I guess. But I think it crosses the line into torture when you talk about sleep deprivation or endless repetition.

[Alex]

I didn't say it was worse than torture.

I said the people who did it were probably just doing it to be dicks. And when you do something to be a dick then you are a dick.

Is it the worst thing in the world? No. I'd just prefer that people not go around trying to be dicks. I especially prefer that prison guards not be dicks to their prisoners. I even more prefer that they not torture them but I'm a dreamer and dream of a world in which I get both.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

Originally Posted by Alex

I didn't say it was worse than torture.

I said the people who did it were probably just doing it to be dicks. And when you do something to be a dick then you are a dick.

Is it the worst thing in the world? No. I'd just prefer that people not go around trying to be dicks. I especially prefer that prison guards not be dicks to their prisoners. I even more prefer that they not torture them but I'm a dreamer and dream of a world in which I get both.

I just want to say that I really like this post.