All About McCain - Page 31

scaeagles · 08-30-2008, 02:07 PM

With Gustav storming toward the gulf coast and specifically New Orleans, McCain has said he may delay the start of the convention. I think he should, really.

Micheal Moore said that Gustav coming to shore at the start of the Republican convention is proof there is a god in heaven. While I think understand what's he's meaning, it's still pretty sick to say considering the how strong the storm currently is.....almost as if he's gleeful that one is about to wreak havoc. He was quick to add that he doesn't want anyone hurt, but being that I thnk he is a sick individual I wcan't help but think he's hoping there is widespread destruction. That may be unwarranted on my part.

Anyway, I wonder what is going to happen. First, is anyone going to be stupid enough not to evacuate this time when ordered, and will local authorities actually do anything to help them get out, particularly those who may not be able to? I really doubt it will be as mishandled as Katrina was, but I know, sadly, it will be used politically on both sides whether it is or not....great federal relief will be used as a proclamation by McCain that republicans do care, and will be spun by dems that only because they had to this time did it go well and they will constantly talk of the failures of Katrina (without talking about the failings of the locals pre Katrina). If it doesn't go well, the dems will, of course, use it to their advantage. And I do think that would be legit.

Not Afraid · 08-30-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Micheal Moore said that Gustav coming to shore at the start of the Republican convention is proof there is a god in heaven.

That's a brilliant bit of irony given what was "purported" by some to be the cause of Katrina.

Gn2Dlnd · 08-31-2008, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

First, is anyone going to be stupid enough not to evacuate this time when ordered, and will local authorities actually do anything to help them get out, particularly those who may not be able to?

I've already read that people who don't have the means to leave are staying. I hope the local authorities do step up this time, and offer everyone who needs one, a ride out of harm's way.

Not the hurricane thread, I know, but I wanted to comment.

Hurricane, John McCain. Hmmm.

JWBear · 08-30-2008, 03:19 PM

There is also, as someone mentioned earlier, the thought that Clinton will redouble her efforts to see Obama elected so that some other woman isn't the first female VP or President....

Stan4dSteph · 08-30-2008, 03:41 PM

Who all is saying that Clinton will sabotage Obama's campaign? The Fox News pundits?

Anyone who is pro-Creationism is off my list immediately. I hope women are not that shallow that they vote for her just to get a woman in the VP seat.

innerSpaceman · 08-30-2008, 03:33 PM

Haha, excellent points, JW and MbC.

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-30-2008, 05:41 PM

The speeches both Clintons gave at the Dem Convention were clear enough. Continuing to say that she is going to sandbag the campaign doesn't make sense in the light of those speeches.

scaeagles · 08-30-2008, 06:25 PM

I don't think Hillary is as concerned with policy as she is concerned with power. I may very well be wrong. It seems to me as if she has always put her own ambitions ahead of what was in the best interests of party and others.

BDBopper · 08-30-2008, 06:40 PM

Should Creationism be the only theory taught in schools? No. Nor should evolution. A theory can only be proven false - or so said my atheist Astrology professor in college before he noted that it ironically validated Creationism (which he obviously doesn't believe in). Personally I believe in a hybrid of both.

If you teach kids both there is obviously much more evidence that Evolution is correct and 9/10 students will concur. I bet the odds are lower than that today without it being included in the curriculum.

Besides if you don't expose students to Creationism...or other sensitive things it results in ignorance. It doesn't have to be presented as fact. It just needs to be understood.

Dang...that was quite the tangent...sorry gang.

JWBear · 08-30-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BDBopper

Should Creationism be the only theory taught in schools? No. Nor should evolution. A theory can only be proven false - or so said my atheist Astrology professor in college before he noted that it ironically validated Creationism (which he obviously doesn't believe in). Personally I believe in a hybrid of both.

If you teach kids both there is obviously much more evidence that Evolution is correct and 9/10 students will concur. I bet the odds are lower than that today without it being included in the curriculum.

Besides if you don't expose students to Creationism...or other sensitive things it results in ignorance. It doesn't have to be presented as fact. It just needs to be understood.

Dang...that was quite the tangent...sorry gang.

Should we, then, teach about the Tooth Fairy in dental schools? Or astrology in astronomy classes? How about teaching chemistry students that, with the correct ingredients, they can turn lead into gold?

08-30-2008, 02:07 PM	#1
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	With Gustav storming toward the gulf coast and specifically New Orleans, McCain has said he may delay the start of the convention. I think he should, really. Micheal Moore said that Gustav coming to shore at the start of the Republican convention is proof there is a god in heaven. While I think understand what's he's meaning, it's still pretty sick to say considering the how strong the storm currently is.....almost as if he's gleeful that one is about to wreak havoc. He was quick to add that he doesn't want anyone hurt, but being that I thnk he is a sick individual I wcan't help but think he's hoping there is widespread destruction. That may be unwarranted on my part. Anyway, I wonder what is going to happen. First, is anyone going to be stupid enough not to evacuate this time when ordered, and will local authorities actually do anything to help them get out, particularly those who may not be able to? I really doubt it will be as mishandled as Katrina was, but I know, sadly, it will be used politically on both sides whether it is or not....great federal relief will be used as a proclamation by McCain that republicans do care, and will be spun by dems that only because they had to this time did it go well and they will constantly talk of the failures of Katrina (without talking about the failings of the locals pre Katrina). If it doesn't go well, the dems will, of course, use it to their advantage. And I do think that would be legit.
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JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	There is also, as someone mentioned earlier, the thought that Clinton will redouble her efforts to see Obama elected so that some other woman isn't the first female VP or President.... __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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Stan4dSteph Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,156	Who all is saying that Clinton will sabotage Obama's campaign? The Fox News pundits? Anyone who is pro-Creationism is off my list immediately. I hope women are not that shallow that they vote for her just to get a woman in the VP seat.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Haha, excellent points, JW and MbC.
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Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	The speeches both Clintons gave at the Dem Convention were clear enough. Continuing to say that she is going to sandbag the campaign doesn't make sense in the light of those speeches. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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08-30-2008, 06:25 PM	#8
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I don't think Hillary is as concerned with policy as she is concerned with power. I may very well be wrong. It seems to me as if she has always put her own ambitions ahead of what was in the best interests of party and others.
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08-30-2008, 06:40 PM	#9
BDBopper Not Taking Any Crap! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cleaning Up America, One Step At A Time! Posts: 1,694	Should Creationism be the only theory taught in schools? No. Nor should evolution. A theory can only be proven false - or so said my atheist Astrology professor in college before he noted that it ironically validated Creationism (which he obviously doesn't believe in). Personally I believe in a hybrid of both. If you teach kids both there is obviously much more evidence that Evolution is correct and 9/10 students will concur. I bet the odds are lower than that today without it being included in the curriculum. Besides if you don't expose students to Creationism...or other sensitive things it results in ignorance. It doesn't have to be presented as fact. It just needs to be understood. Dang...that was quite the tangent...sorry gang.
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