Miscellaneous Movie Musings - Page 347

Bornieo: Fully Loaded · 06-26-2008, 03:43 PM

There have been so many interpitations of the Joker both in comics and on screen now, its tough to know what the real character is. The 60's Batman et al. really skewed the image originated in the comic books to the point that people think that's all it ever was. I think Ledger and his death is going to put a damper on this the more I see of it. I really liked Batman Begins, but I think they should have moved on (in the script stage) to another villian and situation.

IMHO.

JWBear · 06-26-2008, 05:12 PM

Truman Show is one of the only things I could stand him in. The other was a made for TV movie, made before he became famous, called Doing Time on Maple Drive.

JWBear · 06-26-2008, 05:13 PM

I almost forgot... He was good as the Grinch.

innerSpaceman · 06-26-2008, 05:24 PM

You are dead to me.

Ok, he was good as the Grinch, but that was among the most ill-conceived movie projects ever greenlit.

I live some of his doofy comedies. He was great in Eternal Sunshine. Um, that's it, I think.

LSPoorEeyorick · 06-26-2008, 05:35 PM

Ditto that ill-conceived. Fie on all after-the-fact invented backstories for delightfully-evil-for-no-purpose villains (Michael Myers, I'm also talking to you.)

BarTopDancer · 06-26-2008, 07:17 PM

I suppose I should see Batman Begins.

When Ledger died Jack Nicholson said that to get into the character of Joker you had to go to a dark place. I found that intriguing. I think Jim Carrey could be a good Joker, but I don't think he'd be good in that dark place. Then again it didn't work out so well for Ledger either.

I think Ledgers death will bring a very haunting aura to the film. I don't like the marketing they are doing for it, I'd like to see a good mix. But it is what it is.

Ghoulish Delight · 06-26-2008, 07:41 PM

I'll give him Earth Girls Are Easy, Eternal Sunshine, maybe Truman. I'll even throw in the Grinch (in the "given the abomination he was given to work with he did an admirable job" kinda way) and, yes, even Once Bitten. Still doesn't make up for his overall volume of crapitude.

I have a feeling this is going to be like Returns, very polarizing. People will either love it or hate it.

ETA: Oh yeah, I actually liked Forever. But it came out during an uncharacteristic run of being a functionally social human being during high school where I was making an effort to get off my butt and hang out with people, so my good mood surely has colored my judgment.

BarTopDancer · 06-26-2008, 07:49 PM

Batman
Batman Returns
Batman Forever
Batman Begins

What other ones have come out in recent years?

innerSpaceman · 06-26-2008, 07:57 PM

Batman and Robin was the really rat turd one with the Governator as Mr. Freeze (though it did have the hysterical clip of The Cold Meiser song from the weird Rankin-Bass Christmas special ... it's one of my favorite musical numbers ever.)

So what marketing am I missing for The Dark Knight since I don't watch TV? Because the print ads and posters about town seem to be 1/3 about the Joker, and 2/3 about Batman. I don't see how that's inappropriate.

They simply scrapped the entire early promo campaign which was supposed to be ALL JOKER.

I think the studio is being very tasteful. They have a lot to gain by this being Ledger's final appearance, and in a decidely macabre role. You can't expect them to just throw that away, or refuse to promote one of the film's main characters.

CoasterMatt · 06-26-2008, 08:01 PM

I really enjoy Dumb and Dumber, other than that, I really don't care much for Jim Carrey.

06-26-2008, 03:43 PM	#3461
Bornieo: Fully Loaded Lego Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Disneyland, USA Posts: 3,704	There have been so many interpitations of the Joker both in comics and on screen now, its tough to know what the real character is. The 60's Batman et al. really skewed the image originated in the comic books to the point that people think that's all it ever was. I think Ledger and his death is going to put a damper on this the more I see of it. I really liked Batman Begins, but I think they should have moved on (in the script stage) to another villian and situation. IMHO.
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06-26-2008, 05:12 PM	#3462
JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	Truman Show is one of the only things I could stand him in. The other was a made for TV movie, made before he became famous, called Doing Time on Maple Drive. __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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06-26-2008, 05:13 PM	#3463
JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	I almost forgot... He was good as the Grinch. __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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06-26-2008, 05:24 PM	#3464
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	You are dead to me. Ok, he was good as the Grinch, but that was among the most ill-conceived movie projects ever greenlit. I live some of his doofy comedies. He was great in Eternal Sunshine. Um, that's it, I think.
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06-26-2008, 05:35 PM	#3465
LSPoorEeyorick scribblin' Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in the moment Posts: 3,872	Ditto that ill-conceived. Fie on all after-the-fact invented backstories for delightfully-evil-for-no-purpose villains (Michael Myers, I'm also talking to you.)
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06-26-2008, 07:17 PM	#3466
BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	I suppose I should see Batman Begins. When Ledger died Jack Nicholson said that to get into the character of Joker you had to go to a dark place. I found that intriguing. I think Jim Carrey could be a good Joker, but I don't think he'd be good in that dark place. Then again it didn't work out so well for Ledger either. I think Ledgers death will bring a very haunting aura to the film. I don't like the marketing they are doing for it, I'd like to see a good mix. But it is what it is. __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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06-26-2008, 07:41 PM	#3467
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I'll give him Earth Girls Are Easy, Eternal Sunshine, maybe Truman. I'll even throw in the Grinch (in the "given the abomination he was given to work with he did an admirable job" kinda way) and, yes, even Once Bitten. Still doesn't make up for his overall volume of crapitude. I have a feeling this is going to be like Returns, very polarizing. People will either love it or hate it. ETA: Oh yeah, I actually liked Forever. But it came out during an uncharacteristic run of being a functionally social human being during high school where I was making an effort to get off my butt and hang out with people, so my good mood surely has colored my judgment. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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06-26-2008, 07:49 PM	#3468
BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	Batman Batman Returns Batman Forever Batman Begins What other ones have come out in recent years? __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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06-26-2008, 07:57 PM	#3469
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Batman and Robin was the really rat turd one with the Governator as Mr. Freeze (though it did have the hysterical clip of The Cold Meiser song from the weird Rankin-Bass Christmas special ... it's one of my favorite musical numbers ever.) So what marketing am I missing for The Dark Knight since I don't watch TV? Because the print ads and posters about town seem to be 1/3 about the Joker, and 2/3 about Batman. I don't see how that's inappropriate. They simply scrapped the entire early promo campaign which was supposed to be ALL JOKER. I think the studio is being very tasteful. They have a lot to gain by this being Ledger's final appearance, and in a decidely macabre role. You can't expect them to just throw that away, or refuse to promote one of the film's main characters.
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06-26-2008, 08:01 PM	#3470
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