The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Sorry. No one takes back the toasters.

Nobody wants the toasters. They were worthless to begin with.

[Disneyphile]

Because it just HAD to be done:

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Glad I could contribute to all the political craziness!

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Disneyphile

Because it just HAD to be done:

Click Here

Glad I could contribute to all the political craziness!

Great stuff......I also took a trip down memory lane at that site and watched "good to be in DC".....funny line in that one; Micheal Moore comes up along with Rush Limbaugh and they say together "most guys, take sides", the line after that is what caught my attention(I won't spoil it here, just check it out if you dont remember)....what a difference 4 years makes

[innerSpaceman]

oh no you didn't.




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So, I'm wondering if Great Depression II will hit its stride before the election and what that might mean for the results.

[Strangler Lewis]

Generally well said in a short amount of time. However, when you use the phrase "states rights," you should clarify if you are talking about speed limits and environmental issues as opposed to, say, seating at ice cream parlors.

[scaeagles]

Thank you, and yes, most assuredly so.

[3894]

Now, appreciate this, scaeagles. It comes at great personal cost: I had to google images of the Dark Prince.

[Alex]

sceagles: You acknowledge that the Republican Party has not actually behaved in a conservative manner. However, what incentive is there for them to change if you will continue to vote for them simply because they are slightly more conservative oriented than the Democratic Party?

If they can forever count on the libertarian-esque Republicans to vote for them in return for lip service are you not rewarding them for not offering anything more than lip service?

At least with a Democratic government you can engage in full opposition maneuvers (since you don't have to pay any attention to "party unity") and perhaps you can convince the Republican Party that if they want to return to power they need to offer more than a wink and a nod?

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Alex

sceagles: You acknowledge that the Republican Party has not actually behaved in a conservative manner. However, what incentive is there for them to change if you will continue to vote for them simply because they are slightly more conservative oriented than the Democratic Party?

If they can forever count on the libertarian-esque Republicans to vote for them in return for lip service are you not rewarding them for not offering anything more than lip service?

At least with a Democratic government you can engage in full opposition maneuvers (since you don't have to pay any attention to "party unity") and perhaps you can convince the Republican Party that if they want to return to power they need to offer more than a wink and a nod?

I can't speak for Leo, but this goes thru my mind everytime I see McCain give that cheshire cat grin of his......I ask myself, maybe the only way for the Republcan party to truly rebound to greatness again is for it to first hit bottom.

But then I ask myself; will the Democrats play fair and not redistrict the heck out of the country and change as many rules as they can to make it almost impossible for me to ever see a Republican majority again in my lifetime....I am kinda doubting it. Prevent Defense, it may not always work, but it's better than risking the whole game.

[scaeagles]

Thank you, 3894. I almost wept.

Alex, I have indeed struggled with that and have made public my waffling on voting for McCain. Being that I have the same advantage as ISM in terms of living in a state that is going to go for my candidate of choice no matter what I do, I may still choose not to vote. Choosing not to vote is certainly not the same as just not voting.

I'm afraid that's about the best I can answer that.

Edited to add:
However, there may certainly come a point in time where there will either need to be a redefinition of what a republican is or I will abandon them as a party member. But in reality, whom else would I vote for if everything else remained the same? The person whom I know will not be in line with much of what I believe, or the person who i can hope might be somewhat so? There is no candidate with which anyone truly can align themselves with on every stated position. Perhaps every election for me may eventually be the overused cliche of the lesser of two evils. The last vote I was excited to cast was for the Junior Senator from AZ, one Jon Kyl, who is actually very much along the lines of what I posted 9at least from what i can gather).