On Psalm 109 and Faith - Page 4

flippyshark · 11-23-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I would regard petty as being "wow, my creation sucks and they all deserve to be obliterated".

You mean like when he flooded the earth?

(sorry, couldn't resist.)

I'm glad my summary of the faith seemed reasonably accurate to you. I try hard not to set up and criticize straw men. It's not always easy.

Alex · 11-23-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I would regard petty as being "wow, my creation sucks and they all deserve to be obliterated". I wouldn't regard what has been described as petty at all.

I would describe "worship me for no other reason than that I had someone else say that you should or face eternal pain and punishment" or "here, have some free will but if you use it you'll be sorry" to be at least a little bit petty (and this part survives into the New Testament).

But I'm trying to not debate, still curious about the "in the presence of god" part above as I'm still sure it is just a difference in word usage that has me confused.

mousepod · 11-23-2009, 02:20 PM

I hear ya, sca. I regard petty as "I made you and all the rest of everything that exists, and if you don't hold a certain belief that's not apparent by the nature (that I also created), then you will suffer for all eternity."

mousepod · 11-24-2009, 12:25 PM

GD,

I'm with you down the line. I think that if I were to raise a child now, I'd probably be teaching him or her about Ethical Culture, a la Felix Adler. The Los Angeles group is here.

BarTopDancer · 11-24-2009, 12:59 PM

I'm so confused. Was this thread created as a spin off of the off color thread?

Ghoulish Delight · 11-24-2009, 01:52 PM

Yes, it started there, presumably as Gn2Dlnd considered the topic of psalm 109 fitting the "random off color" theme. But with 60+ posts of level headed discourse regarding belief, I thought it deserved to be pulled out of there.

Alex · 11-24-2009, 02:00 PM

Whew! I'm glad to have another angry atheist on board. Now I can go back to being contrarian and believing in god. And homeopathy. And Andrew Weil.

Betty · 11-24-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Whew! I'm glad to have another angry atheist on board. Now I can go back to being contrarian and believing in god. And homeopathy. And Andrew Weil.

Don't forget Santa!

scaeagles · 11-24-2009, 02:03 PM

Crap. Level headed? That sucks. The LoT might get back to being what it was supposed to be then. I don't know if I can take that.

Alex · 11-24-2009, 02:09 PM

No, I"m going to have to stick with "Convincing your kids of the existence of Santa is morally abhorrent and a minor form of child abuse."

That's just too fun of a position to give up.

11-23-2009, 02:20 PM	#3
mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	I hear ya, sca. I regard petty as "I made you and all the rest of everything that exists, and if you don't hold a certain belief that's not apparent by the nature (that I also created), then you will suffer for all eternity." __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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11-24-2009, 12:25 PM	#4
mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	GD, I'm with you down the line. I think that if I were to raise a child now, I'd probably be teaching him or her about Ethical Culture, a la Felix Adler. The Los Angeles group is here. __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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11-24-2009, 12:59 PM	#5
BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	I'm so confused. Was this thread created as a spin off of the off color thread? __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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11-24-2009, 01:52 PM	#6
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Yes, it started there, presumably as Gn2Dlnd considered the topic of psalm 109 fitting the "random off color" theme. But with 60+ posts of level headed discourse regarding belief, I thought it deserved to be pulled out of there. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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11-24-2009, 02:00 PM	#7
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Whew! I'm glad to have another angry atheist on board. Now I can go back to being contrarian and believing in god. And homeopathy. And Andrew Weil.
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11-24-2009, 02:03 PM	#9
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Crap. Level headed? That sucks. The LoT might get back to being what it was supposed to be then. I don't know if I can take that.
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11-24-2009, 02:09 PM	#10
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	No, I"m going to have to stick with "Convincing your kids of the existence of Santa is morally abhorrent and a minor form of child abuse." That's just too fun of a position to give up.
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