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Old 05-01-2006, 10:27 PM   #31
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I have no problems with parents taking kids out of school for a day to do something that is a non school educational experience. I did a couple of things during HS years that would fall into that category.

Edited to add the caveat: I only support this if it is a good student who keeps up with school work and maintains their grades. Someone who can't keep their grades up should probably not skip school for something like that.
I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of those kids stayed home and watched cartoons.
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Old 05-01-2006, 10:29 PM   #32
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One of the persons whining in the news was a landscaper whose illegal help skipped work. He's out $12,000 for the day, which makes me wonder how much he'd be out if he had legal workers? The answer is zip, because they would have been at work. Now, I realise the rest of the time he makes out like a bandit because he underpays and doesn't have to worry about taxes so much, so hopefully he's put some of that money aside to help defray today's expenses.

It also makes me think that perhaps they have miscalculated- knowing that so many illegals are willing to organize and act out will surely make people more leery of them on the whole and maybe spur the anti's into action.
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Old 05-01-2006, 10:29 PM   #33
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I'd bet you're right, CP. To many (most?) it was not a protest, but an excuse to have a day off.
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Old 05-01-2006, 10:33 PM   #34
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I had seen on t.v. that in the Fresno area {darn it, what is that called???} some companies are helping the families by building neighborhoods with homes they can afford to buy and live nicely with their families.

I don't recall if they were legal or not.
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Old 05-01-2006, 10:37 PM   #35
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One of the persons whining in the news was a landscaper whose illegal help skipped work. He's out $12,000 for the day, which makes me wonder how much he'd be out if he had legal workers? The answer is zip, because they would have been at work. Now, I realise the rest of the time he makes out like a bandit because he underpays and doesn't have to worry about taxes so much, so hopefully he's put some of that money aside to help defray today's expenses.

It also makes me think that perhaps they have miscalculated- knowing that so many illegals are willing to organize and act out will surely make people more leery of them on the whole and maybe spur the anti's into action.
Oh, yes. You KNOW they don't pay much. Add to that medical, etc.

Out $12,000 for the day? Because he probably paid the workers a pittance.

Will our economy suffer? Or will it dip for a bit and then become more strong if we fix this problem?
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Old 05-01-2006, 11:06 PM   #36
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I guess to further my question, do they have the "protected" rights to free speech as legal citizens might have?

This has been a most interesting thread. I love you guys, you know...
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Old 05-02-2006, 12:19 AM   #37
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SC your all wrong man you gotta get in the Jr High mentality and quit being all white and uptight... Then you will see what its all about

You gotta understand this protest has deep meaning attached it was totally spontaneously started by a 1/4 Salvadorian Kid who got picked on by the Mexican's at school but then he made peace with them cause of when he was called a wetback by some a-hole white senior now he has a dream (and a fauxhawk) and shares it all I got the my-space bulletin I know what’s up.

Illegal Immigration is so way not even a problem if you think so you are a racist and junk

Viva La Raza! I am so on board for this ****

Our next move to soften the movements perceived angry edge and gain much momentum from our uninterested high school brothers and sisters is to adopt a mascot with a younger more viral appeal therefore I propose The Spanish Fly

So do your part every little bit matters and ****
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Old 05-02-2006, 05:24 AM   #38
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The Old People went out driving yesterday to see what local businesses were closed so that they could see where they would never go again. They found it odd that there were news reports that Jack in the Box was closed, but the many locally owned Mexican restaraunts were open.
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Old 05-02-2006, 05:49 AM   #39
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If all illegal immigrants (not immigrants - ILLEGAL immigrants) are made legal - there will be a new wave of illegal immigrants and all the "old" ones will lose their jobs to the new ones who will work for less money.

What I learned from yesterdays events...

There was ZERO traffic on the way to work. The offramp I exit usually has a wait of 3-4 lights before getting through. I was the only one exiting yesterday. There was only 1 person in line at the drive through during lunch instead of 5 or 6. Lot's of kid were absent from school... wouldn't it be nice if overcrowding was reduced all the time.

The only way I was impacted was in a positive way.

The news calls it Immigrants Day and what not and that's just a blatent lie. It's not IMMIGRANTS - but people who are doing something that is blatently illegal.

I would love to have each company have a way to securely check S.S. cards. Then - CRACK DOWN on EMPLOYERS.

No jobs. No pay. No people thinking there will be a better job here.

Just think of what all of those people who protested could do if they all stood together in Mexico. No work, no school, just one big - HEAR US! Think of the change they could bring about in Mexico!

Personally, I would rather pay higher prices for vegetables then health care.

And all this - they are doing jobs American's won't do. That's incorrect. It should be - they do jobs american's won't do for less then minimum wage. I know plenty of people who would work in a restauraunt or in construction. Just think - we might actually have a kid from down the street mow our lawn and earn some money - an actual paper boy from our neighborhood.

I find myself more worked up over this issue then really -anything other I can think of. A vote on this issue, for me, takes precendence over a woman's right to choose - and that is something I never thought I'd be willing to budge on. Of course, I don't think it'll ever come down to that. both political parties are so incredibly stupid that the "immigrant vote" is clearly more important then my own is.
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Old 05-02-2006, 06:52 AM   #40
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There are so many approaches to immigration and this event didn't articulate any. It's supporters paint the opposition as people who want to stop imiigration all together. The opposition see the supporters wanting amnisty for all illeagle immigrants, or open borders. I don't think either is completely true, but perpetuation of the extremes makes for good media.

Sadly, I think both sides are closer on this issue than I think. Personally, this is one area where I think George Bush came up with a sensible approach - i.e. a guest worker program. There's obviously a niche being filled by the existing illeagle immigrants - let's find a way to take advantage of that in a more manageable fashion.
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