"Why Believe in God" ad campaign

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Eliza Hodgkins 1812

Hee. And, for the record, I fvcking love Christmas!

A wonderful Pagan holiday known as Yule (and other names, depending on which mythology you prefer).

[Betty]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

A wonderful Pagan holiday known as Yule (and other names, depending on which mythology you prefer).

I'd like to know what your ruffled panties have do to with yule?

But I love the photo. ha ha ha.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

A wonderful Pagan holiday known as Yule (and other names, depending on which mythology you prefer).

Well, color me embarrassed. It seems I pasted the wrong link in this post. With apologies for anyone who clicked it at work.

While I did not find the original link I meant to post, here is something up the same alley.

[bewitched]

Originally Posted by Alex

Oh, I'm sorry. Let me rephrase in the message board time honored way of avoiding personal attacks:

Some group of people of which you are a member, but I'm not saying this about you personally just a group of people that so happens to include you, must be from Arizona.

VAM!

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

Well, color me embarrassed. It seems I pasted the wrong link in this post. With apologies for anyone who clicked it at work.

While I did not find the original link I meant to post, here is something up the same alley.

And here I just assumed the frilly panty picture was intentional.

[flippyshark]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

Jesus died for my sins. I am making every effort to ensure that his death was not in vain.

If Jesus truly died for the sins of humanity, (as I once fervently believed) it seems to me that the only reasonable view is that of the Universalists - we're all covered - no pre-conditions, no belief requirements, no entrance exam. Universal sanctification, no damnation. (Though, practically everyone I know would want to make a few exceptions for the really really evil bastards - but strict Universalism says no, everyone gets spiritually overhauled and reunited with the big G.) Every other view ends up excluding enormous numbers of essentially good people, and I don't think any compassionate human of the 21st century should countenance such injustice.

So, Kevy, I bet you're covered.

[flippyshark]

I was a closeted atheist/ hard agnostic/ non-theist (whatever) for a very long time, and I look forward to a day when that fact carries no stigma at all. It ought to matter as little as ones preference for Coke vs. Pepsi. (Come to think of it, some people get pretty het up about that one as well.)

[CoasterMatt]

So if I do follow a spiritual path, that includes believing in God, does this mean I'm a bad person?

[flippyshark]

Originally Posted by CoasterMatt

So if I do follow a spiritual path, that includes believing in God, does this mean I'm a bad person?

I don't see where anything said in this thread so far would lead to that conclusion, no.

Most of the kindest and most giving people I know have some kind of belief. A few don't. Some of the nastiest I've ever met are believers. A few of them aren't.

[CoasterMatt]

There are plenty of other things to lead to the conclusion that I'm a bad person

I'm not really keen on the ads, but that's about it.

[flippyshark]

I know that the ads would have bothered the hell out of me back in my believing days. Part of that is because beliefs and world views are so closely tied in with how we view and value ourselves (and others). It's a deeply personal concern that hits us where we live.

It is also true that, for me anyway, when I used to encounter direct challenges to God belief, they made me very uncomfortable, because deep down, I was afraid the doubters might be on to something. For me, anyway, those fears came true, but I ended up happier that way. Everyone's mileage will vary, and that's totally groovy with me.