The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[innerSpaceman]

I think scaeagles is batsh!t crazy for that statement.




(but only because I'm impatiently awaiting his Obama rant.)




(And, no, impatient was not an ObamaCare pun.)

[scaeagles]

I know. I know. I know. Too much to rant about!

And I'd like to think of it as more of a intelligent discourse into the error of Obama's ways.

[innerSpaceman]

I can hardly wait. Because if you leave any out, I've got plenty of my own.


(I like some of what he's doing, but - as with all presidents - I've got problems with much of it. Still, he's a good public speaker, and we haven't had that for a while. Not as good a bamboozler as Clinton was, but who could match up to that. Obama's quite the bamboozler, though.)

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Still, he's a good public speaker, and we haven't had that for a while.

He can read a teleprompter in a convincing fashion. Get him off the teleprompter and he does not do well.

[BarTopDancer]

Some Parents Oppose Obama Speech to Students

Some parents said they were concerned because the speech had not been screened for political content. Nor, they said, had it been reviewed by the State Board of Education and local school boards, which, under state law, must approve the curriculum.

“The thing that concerned me most about it was it seemed like a direct channel from the president of the United States into the classroom, to my child,” said Brett Curtiss, an engineer from Pearland, Tex., who said he would keep his three children home. “I don’t want our schools turned over to some socialist movement.”

Paranoid much?

I'm sure there were/would be parents who were/would be if Bush had spoken to students. I know he read them stories but I don't recall if he ever did this.

We are a divided country and this type of behavior is not helping. Same with the 2012 stickers (though I'm sure if a Republican is elected for 2012 the 2016 stickers will appear).

[Morrigoon]

Heaven forbid our children get brainwashed into believing in the value of a good education. They might start *gasp!* "learning" things, and talking about evolution and sh!t. No, you're right, they should be kept home, safe from such atrocities as being directly addressed by the top elected official in our nation.

[scaeagles]

Have you seen the literature from the department of Ed that goes along with his speech?

I would not object to my kids seeing it. I would want to be there, though, to see what he is saying and be able to help my kids with anything I objected to. My kids go to a private school and it has already been announced the elementary school will not be viewing it.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Have you seen the literature from the department of Ed that goes along with his speech?

Nope, do you want to share it with us?

I would not object to my kids seeing it. I would want to be there, though, to see what he is saying and be able to help my kids with anything I objected to. My kids go to a private school and it has already been announced the elementary school will not be viewing it.

What would you object to? Going to school to get a good education?
Would you explain to them why you object or just tell them that Obama is evil and damaging our country beyond repair and they should think that way too.

I remember my dad clearly explaining to me why he felt the way he did about political issues. If he disagreed with something he'd explain what the the issue was, what the current path that he object to was and why he objected to it. It clearly helped me form some critical thinking skills and trying to understand the other side even if I didn't agree with it.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

My kids go to a private school and it has already been announced the elementary school will not be viewing it.

Considering the speech is going to be made available to parents and educators prior to being aired, I find it completely inappropriate and irresponsible for a school, private or otherwise, to decide beforehand that they aren't going to let students view it, without so much as reading it first and seeing if anything objectionable is even contained within.

That's far more creepy to me than anything you have pointed out, far more creepy. I would have no choice but to remove my child from such an institution immediately, regardless of their merits.

[wendybeth]

MBC, my kid's homeschool group is full of this sort of 'thinking'. The parents run around all freaked out about the latest attack on their child's innocence, rarely bothering to ever check it out for themselves. (Harry Potter is a good example). The viciousness of their attacks on Obama is astounding- yet few can actually point to anything he's actually done and cite that as the reason for their alarm. When confronted with facts, it's usually a vague sort of "Well, there's just something about him I don't like/trust." We all know what that something is- it's the skincolor their God gave him. I wonder why they don't ever consider that perhaps their God planned for him to be President? Why not- everything else in their lives is ordained by God- yet they are so reluctant to accept their elected leader. Forget about acceptance; just laying off on the assasination 'jokes' would be a nice change.