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Old 09-03-2009, 11:59 PM   #1
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To be fair, while I'm certain that a significant portion of distrust stems from racism, I don't think that's the only reason. Nor do I suspect that is where Scaeagles mistrust stems from.

Still, this unjustified paranoia is growing at an alarming rate, fueled by endless emails and television punditry. And perhaps my biggest fear is that one of the moonbat extremists of the party, or a group of them, are going to be riled up by this misinformation to the point that they take matters into their own hands. I sincerely fear that the time is coming where there is going to be blood on the hands of everyone propagating these rumors and misinformation, and yet, they will refuse to consider that they played any role or hold any responsibility for what took place.

The abortion doctor being shot, the Holocaust Museum shooting - just the tip of the iceberg. Threats against the President of the United States have increased 400% since Obama took office. I'm pretty firmly convinced that the next act of terrorism that this country sees will be domestic and from someone who self-affiliates with the Republican party. I hope I'm wrong.
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Old 09-04-2009, 02:30 AM   #2
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The elementary school indoctrination experience.

"How was school today?"
"Good."
"Anything interesting happen?"
"Zachary's mom brought cupcakes. Emily fell at recess."
"Wasn't today President Obama's speech?"
"Yeah."
"Did your class watch it?"
"Yeah."
"How was it?"
"Good."
"What did he talk about?"
"Stuff."
"Like?"

Crickets.

"Were you listening?"
"Yeah." Pause. "I guess he talked about x."
"What do you think about that?"
"I don't know. Good, I guess."

And now . . . the great teachable moment.

"You know, the president, the governor, all these politicians, the priest/rabbi: they're just people. We hope they mean well, but they can be wrong. So you always have to think about what they say."
"Okay."
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Old 09-04-2009, 04:58 AM   #3
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I'm glad it's available. I was not aware of that.

Moonbats taking things into their own hands....like the guy in Colorado who vandalized a democrat party office to try to make it look like Republicans did it? Or the other guy who bit off the pinky of an Obamacare protester? Would you say that the US Army soldier who took a grenade into the barracks a few years ago and blew up a bunch of people was inspired by those on the left protesting the war? Perhaps John Kerry who was saying we were terrorizing women and children in the dark of night and killing innocent civilians? Does he get the blame?

I come from the old fashioned school where the individual is responsible for their own actions.

All that being said, I need to read what he's planning on saying in his speech. I do not find my distrust of him unreasonable, and MBC, I appreciate that you know it does not stem from racism.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:28 AM   #4
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I'm glad it's available. I was not aware of that.
Of course you weren't. To be aware of that, so you could educate yourself would go against the "Well I just don't trust him and I don't want my kids to see it...because if they do I might have to hold an intelligent discussion with them about why I feel the way I feel and answer questions and.... *gasp* find out they might feel differently then me". And as a toaster-touting paranoid Republican that just can't happen.

Does that about sum it up?
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Old 09-04-2009, 05:37 AM   #5
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Talk about overstepping his power, when I was in high school how is it that JFK had been dead for 25 years and was still somehow making me do shuttle runs twice a year?
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Old 09-04-2009, 06:29 AM   #6
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Old 09-04-2009, 06:30 AM   #7
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I suppose I would prefer to see any essay topics phrased as "How I Can Help My Country/State/City" than how I can help any particular office holder. I think, however, that the only way that opposition to this event can be principled rather than paranoid is if you think that no president has any business addressing school children about anything. This means no "How can I help President Bush/America win the war on terror," no "How can I help President Roosevelt/America win World War II" Etc. It probably also means no civics or, rather, no teaching of civic responsibility, since people clearly differ on how much we should be allowed to depend on/intrude on one another.

When I was in Fourth Grade, my teacher's adult son was shot and nearly killed in a mugging in New York City. The substitute, or maybe the principal, made us all write letters to Mayor Lindsay, Governor Rockefeller and, I believe, the New York City Chief of Police asking them to make the streets safer. My mother still has Mayor Lindsay's response framed, and I thought it was pretty cool at the time.

On the other hand, perhaps the whole project was inappropriate. There was probably an implicit racist cast to the whole undertaking since New York city crime was inevitably about the blacks and the Puerto Ricans. There were probably sophisticated union issues involved that fourth graders had no business weighing in on, and Lindsay had enough problems with the unions.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:11 AM   #8
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The way the (Bakersfield) local schoo odistricts are phrasing it is that they don't show the students anything that has not been reviewed. This is a standard policy, across the board, no matter who is wanting to address the students.

Now, if Nickolas was in high school, and this was shown in a government class, and was open for discussion I would not have an issue. I do have an issue with him in 7th grade, no real discussion allowed. We discuss politics in my house, we review both sides of an issue. When he makes a black or white statement, we discuss that there are shades of gray that also need to be seen.

My parents are ultra conservative. Bakersfield is mostly conservative. I do my best to show him that is more than one way to look at things. I can't count the times he and I have debated about what he heard over at my parents. For an example, he knows that The Old People oppose gay marrage. He knows that I support gay marrage. We talked about it at great length.

Every one is entitled to their own opinion. I may not agree with that opinion, but it doesn't make it any less valid than mine.
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The way the (Bakersfield) local schoo odistricts are phrasing it is that they don't show the students anything that has not been reviewed. This is a standard policy, across the board, no matter who is wanting to address the students.

Now, if Nickolas was in high school, and this was shown in a government class, and was open for discussion I would not have an issue. I do have an issue with him in 7th grade, no real discussion allowed. We discuss politics in my house, we review both sides of an issue. When he makes a black or white statement, we discuss that there are shades of gray that also need to be seen.

My parents are ultra conservative. Bakersfield is mostly conservative. I do my best to show him that is more than one way to look at things. I can't count the times he and I have debated about what he heard over at my parents. For an example, he knows that The Old People oppose gay marrage. He knows that I support gay marrage. We talked about it at great length.

Every one is entitled to their own opinion. I may not agree with that opinion, but it doesn't make it any less valid than mine.
So why not let him watch it and then discuss it with him?
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So why not let him watch it and then discuss it with him?
That would be fine, but not in a school setting. If he wants to see it he can watch it here, with me, and together we can talk about it.
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