Sad Sad day for free speech

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd

That's not Python, it's our good friend Jack Wagner. (click on the little cassette to hear a RealPlayer sound file)

Umm... what little cassette?

[CoasterMatt]

What's a cassette?

[Morrigoon]

Gn2Dlnd beat me to it. That's the voice of Disneyland doing that speech, my friends! I love that file!

[mistyisjafo]

Once you start censoring where do you stop? Just think - Mark Twain's collections have been burned for being indecent, so has Ray Bradbury, Stephen King, Faulkner, Salinger and more. Check out http://www.banned-books.com if you don't believe me.

It's what you teach your kids not what the world teaches them. You are the most important influence in their lives. Although I'm not a parent, I work for a non-profit that focuses on abused and neglected children. What I've learned is that a Mentor (parent) can make a difference.

As for Howard, I'm a fan. But I also listen to Alternative music, watch horror movies and read horror, like Marilyn Monroe and enjoy a good dirty/blue joke. That's what I like, I don't insist anyone like what I like. Listen to what makes you happy.

[Stan4dSteph]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

It is one thing to push the envelope, but what he was doing was WAY beyond the bounds of what could be termed acceptable. He was rude, boorish, annoying and obscene (for public airways). He is entire shtick was to push the boundaries and be an asshole.

I say that Howard, by pushing the limit as much as he did, ruined the airways for many others (he did not do it alone - Opus & Andy as well as others did their fair share).

You're saying this about Stern? Heh.

[Capt Jack]

5 days in. *ponders* nope....oddly enough, still dont miss him

[BarTopDancer]

Ya know I get that some of you don't like him. And that's fine. You didn't listen to him to begin with and you did that with free will. I'm shocked by some of the replies here and I think the FCC stole Kevys brain given his history but his points are good and well taken. Thank you Kevy.
The posts about how you don't miss him, how he's boring really don't add anything but filler to the discussion. If you don't see anything wrong with the FCC cracking down like it is etc etc then this thread isn't for you.

Mistyisjafo is correct. Once you start where do you stop? What's to stop them from taking LoveLine off the air? It's a radio show about sex. Sure, it has a doctor and deals with "medical" issues but in the end it is a radio show about sex. If you've ever listened to it, it gets pretty *low*.

How many radio stations are owned by Clear Channel? How consertative are they? The FCC cracks down on one and Clear Channel has an excuse to pull the *liberal* shows and replace them with Christian radio.

Where is this going to end? What has to be pulled off the air (radio or tv) for you to care?

[Not Afraid]

I think the dividing line here is Public Access. Radio is a commercial venture but it can be experienced to by all, same with television, billboards, etc. Radio has had guidelines provided and enforced by the FCC for as long as I can remember. The other big factor controlling the airwaves is advertising. I have no problem with porn being on PPV and I don't have a problem with Stern's smut being on PPL. Stern and no one else, chooses to present the type of things he does. Using the cloak of the "evil FCC limiting my free speech" BS just doesn't work for me. He knew what the rules were going in. I'm not sure why he couldn't abide by them, but that was his choice. His actions have rammifications based on the rules set up by the FCC.

This isn't a free speech issue, IMHO. This is Stern making a stink in the name of free speech to get more ratings and more income.

[Snowflake]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

I think the dividing line here is Public Access. Radio is a commercial venture but it can be experienced to by all, same with television, billboards, etc. Radio has had guidelines provided and enforced by the FCC for as long as I can remember. The other big factor controlling the airwaves is advertising. I have no problem with porn being on PPV and I don't have a problem with Stern's smut being on PPL. Stern and no one else, chooses to present the type of things he does. Using the cloak of the "evil FCC limiting my free speech" BS just doesn't work for me. He knew what the rules were going in. I'm not sure why he couldn't abide by them, but that was his choice. His actions have rammifications based on the rules set up by the FCC.

This isn't a free speech issue, IMHO. This is Stern making a stink in the name of free speech to get more ratings and more income.

I could not have said it better myself! Unfortunately, I need to spread some mojo around before giving it to NA again.

Donna

[Ghoulish Delight]

Comment's about Stern's childishness are relevant to the conversation in that I don't particularly respect him as a spokesman for free speech. Any valid points he has are undermined by the pointlessly offensive drivel he produces. He makes a poor spokesman in the battle agains the real censorship problems because he's easy to pass off.

I'm much more concerned about the record fine handed to Fox for implied sex before 10PM, all based on a totoal of 4 unique complaints. 700 Million people in this country, and 4 people complaining was enough to trigger a penalty from the FCC. 4 complaints hardly defines a "community standard". Those are the battles that need to be fought, not Stern who blatantly corsses well beyond the line.