10 years later....

[tracilicious]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Totally agree. The issue with the 3 year old mentioned earlier wasn't that a 3 yeard old was wearing makeup. It was that a parent doesn't understand that they have the rigth, and the responsiblity, to say "no" to their child.

I'm confused about this. Did the three year old want to wear makeup in the same way that a 12 or 13 year old wants to wear makeup? That's an odd desire for a child that age. Or did she want to play with makeup/dress up? That would be totally normal and something I would have no problem with a child doing in the house.

[Nephythys]

Hmmm-

Confession says he drugged Jon Benet- autopsy showed no drugs

There is another link saying this could be a hoax confession- site is down.

No Alex- my daughter was not tarted up like that. Stage makeup- hair in a pony tail. My point is, you can't judge by such things without knowing more.

I don't like Libby Lu (nor does my daughter) and I don't have any plans to make her a beauty queen-but I do let her wear make up on special occasions.

But you kinda proved my point......that's all.

[Alex]

And nobody hear has judged letting a child wear make-up.

And I haven't judged any parenting. I asked a question. Without a doubt the parents of the girls in thise elite child pageants are allowing the sexualization of their child. My judgment would depend on the answer as to why.

I have also judged an industry. I find the idea of gathering 8-year-olds to pick the prettiest one to be asinine, independent of what it may say about individual parents. Especially if the method of picking the prettiest one is to first completely alter the appearance of the 8-year-olds in question so that they look like 20-year-olds. Hair, eyelashes, teeth, and tan on that girl in those pictures are all fake. Why not go all the way and pad the breasts?

Carl Lewis was on The Best Damned Sports Show Period! the other night and it was mentioned he would be judging the Miss Teen USA Pageant. The awkwardness of this endeavor was make clear. When asked what he would be looking for he almost blushed and tried to protest that there was nothing prurient about it. He said he didn't really know the criteria but that he had been told to look for symmetry but he was confused since girls that age are supposed to have "symmetry." I just found it immorative. The awkwardness of five guys talking about judging the looks of teenagers (who, at least biologically, actually are sexualized).

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

And nobody hear has judged letting a child wear make-up.

Wrong- they had a discussion just above about the age of letting girls wear make up.

And I haven't judged any parenting. I asked a question. Without a doubt the parents of the girls in thise elite child pageants are allowing the sexualization of their child. My judgment would depend on the answer as to why.

Did not say you did.

But other people did....and that was what I responded to. You just rounded it out.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Wrong- they had a discussion just above about the age of letting girls wear make up.

Actually, the comment seemed more about capitulating to a 3 year old throwing a demanding tantrum. The only other reference to makeup and age was clearly sarcasm.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Actually, the comment seemed more about capitulating to a 3 year old throwing a demanding tantrum. The only other reference to makeup and age was clearly sarcasm.

so?

I just asked a question based on some of the comments above.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Wrong- they had a discussion just above about the age of letting girls wear make up.

When a debate ensues (for all of three posts) about whether a "girl" should be allowed to wear makeup at 35 or 40, I would hope the sarcasm is apparent.

Originally Posted by Nephythys

But other people did....and that was what I responded to. You just rounded it out.

There is a far cry from allowing a girl to wear makeup and a ponytail for a dance recital and allowing what is seen in the highly publicized photos of Jon Bonet or the pix posted by Alex above. What I see in the pagent shots/footage of 4-8 year olds (a la Jon Bonet, et. al.) is (IMHO) abhorrent and negligent behavior on the part of the parents. I DO judge them without pause.

A little makeup and a ponytail in a dance recital does NOT fall into the same catagory and I really am ambivalent about it.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

When a debate ensues (for all of three posts) about whether a "girl" should be allowed to wear makeup at 35 or 40, I would hope the sarcasm is apparent.

It was- same as when my dad told me I could not date til I was 35.

There is a far cry from allowing a girl to wear makeup and a ponytail for a dance recital and allowing what is seen in the highly publicized photos of Jon Bonet or the pix posted by Alex above. What I see in the pagent shots/footage of 4-8 year olds (a la Jon Bonet, et. al.) is (IMHO) abhorrent and negligent behavior on the part of the parents. I DO judge them without pause.

A little makeup and a ponytail in a dance recital does NOT fall into the same catagory and I really am ambivalent about it.

....and some people do not. I just put it out there as an example.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

I see a big difference between little girls wearing make-up for a dance recital or starring in a play vs. getting "tarted up" (which involves a lot more than just make-up) for a pre-pubescent beauty pageant. I have no problems with the former but the latter creeps me out.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

I see a big difference between little girls wearing make-up for a dance recital or starring in a play vs. getting "tarted up" (which involves a lot more than just make-up) for a pre-pubescent beauty pageant. I have no problems with the former but the latter creeps me out.

I agree. But some people make judgements based on what they see, rather than what is real.

Legal analyst says confession could be hoax