RIP Charlton Heston

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Okay, I'll bite, let's be pedantic about one word.

It's mockery to me.

I still don't see how it is mockery. I hate using the dictionary definition, but I had to (to make sure that I wasn't going crazy)

mock·er·y –noun, plural -er·ies.

1. ridicule, contempt, or derision.
2. a derisive, imitative action or speech.
3. a subject or occasion of derision.
4. an imitation, esp. of a ridiculous or unsatisfactory kind.
5. a mocking pretense; travesty: a mockery of justice.
6. something absurdly or offensively inadequate or unfitting.

Other than #6 ("offensively unfitting" would be my guess), I can't see where the word fits in. But even then, I would still wholeheartedly disagree.

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

He could postpone the meeting without seeming to cater to the wills of someone he disagrees with. It's done all the time. Postponing is not giving in.

The NRA canceled all events (normally several days of committee meetings, sporting events, dinners, and rallies) save the annual members' voting meeting -- that could not be canceled because the state law governing nonprofits required that it be held. [Their attorney had advised there was way to change location, since under NY law you have to give 10 days' advance notice of that to the members, or hold the meeting anyway and vote on it, there were upwards of 4,000,000 members -- and Columbine happened 11 days before the scheduled meeting.] Source (but the basic facts are in a lot of places)

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

And Columbine was not just any crime. It was a huge deal. Maybe not to some but to a majority of the country.

And no one is disputing that. I certainly hope that you don't believe that Charlton Heston nor the NRA nor any other rational person in this country believes otherwsie.

[Gemini Cricket]

So the whole repeating the "don't come" phrase is not mockery...
Okay...

No one has to agree with me on this. I have my opinion (the guy was a loon) and there it is.

[Strangler Lewis]

Should the porn industry cancel its annual Vegas convention if it turns out that at the same hotel a bunch of drunken bachelors got revved up on hours of bondage videos and then killed a hooker?

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

Should the porn industry cancel its annual Vegas convention if it turns out that at the same hotel a bunch of drunken bachelors got revved up on hours of bondage videos and then killed a hooker?

If the convention's main focus was about touting the safety and necessity of the freedom to own whips and 12 hookers were killed with whips and 23 others were hurt by them (without consent) less than a couple of weeks ago... uh yeah.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

So the whole repeating the "don't come" phrase is not mockery...
Okay...

If you focus on JUST the 'don't come', perhaps. But if you read the entire speech you will see that he is responding to the request of the mayor:

Originally Posted by Heston's Denver speech

Wellington Webb, the mayor of Denver, sent me a message: "Don't come here. We don't want you here."

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In light of WHY (and how) the NRA continued with holding the meeting in Denver in May 1999, do you still believe that they were wrong to hold it?

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

I always thought it was the "Right to arm Bears."

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

In light of WHY (and how) the NRA continued with holding the meeting in Denver in May 1999, do you still believe that they were wrong to hold it?

Yes.

[innerSpaceman]

As do I. And I agree that Heston was mocking. Like a bird.



He practically dared people to kill him. I'm glad his good friend God finally obliged.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

He practically dared people to kill him. I'm glad his good friend God finally obliged.

Are you referring to the now infamous "Cold Dead Hands" remark? The one that WASN'T made at the Denver convention, but rather a year later (unlike how Mr. Moore portrayed it in his fictional work Bowling for Columbine)?

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

fictional work Bowling for Columbine

Fictional? I think you need to check your dictionary again. Moore has backed up a lot of what he said in his documentary.
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