Gay Apartheid

[Morrigoon]

(emphasis mine)

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Coach McMackin suspended for 30 days without pay. He will volunteer to coach the team in the meantime. His pay will go to gay causes.

This worries me when I hear it. After hearing how rights groups basically trade "public forgiveness" for suitably high donations to their causes, it smells a little like blackmail, or at least buying indulgences.

If you suck, apologize, correct the behavior. The donations thing is an expensive throwaway, and while it's nice that gay rights organizations will get some money, I don't feel it was come by "honestly" and, personally, the donation doesn't change my opinion half as much as the apologies and behavior corrections do. I really don't like that this donation thing is becoming part of the "standard package of forgiveness" in the public eye.

[innerSpaceman]

Can we submit Grant Proposals? I'm thinking the iSm Needs a Man Now Fund is a worthy gay cause!!

[innerSpaceman]

I'm with you there. It's downright creepy ... in that it sorta creeped up as the public apology standard.

I don't know how we'll get out of it now. As soon as someone doesn't pay one of these honorariums, they'll get flack for it.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Perhaps not 100% germane to this post, but I didn't know if this was worthy of its own thread.

from Pam's House Blend

Salt Lake City Man Calls Judy Shepard a Liar to her Face
Sun Sep 27, 2009 at 01:12:18 AM EDT

She began her statement with a quick recap of why she wrote her book The Meaning of Matthew. <snip> After about 5 to 10 minutes, she opened the floor to questions.

About 45 minutes in, a man rose and asked a question that amounted to repeating a current popular right-wing lie--Matthew Shepard was killed because his killers were high and wanted to rob him; his sexual orientation was irrelevant. Mrs. Shepard refuted the claim--pointing out that in one of the killer's confessions, he admitted they acted because of Shepard's sexual orientation; the other, in his statement in court, admitted the same. Neither men tested positive for drugs or alcohol after Matthew's murder. The interlocutor asserted at this point that she was lying and doing a disservice to history by lying about the reasons for her son's murder. To my eyes, Judy Shepard appeared visibly upset by the man's accusations. He claimed to be relying on a report from 20/20; she pointed out that the 20/20 actually ignored the evidence and testimony of both men. She did not deny the men had a history of drug abuse. She pointed out the facts; the man refused to accept them.

[JWBear]

She pointed out the facts; the man refused to accept them.

Sounds like a typical right-winger to me!

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Sounds like a typical right-winger to me!

Sounds like a typical ignorant moron to me.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Sounds like a typical right-winger to me!

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Sounds like a typical ignorant moron to me.

Same thing.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Sounds like a typical right-winger to me!

Sounds like a typical JWBear post to me!

Originally Posted by iSm

Aren't they one in the same?
<snip>
Saying that all rabid right-wingers are ignorant morons is not the same thing as saying all ignorant morons are rabid right-wingers.

Saying that all right-wingers are ignorant morons is called prejudice.

I'm not a fan of the right-wing. And I can't say I agree with much of anything that the conservatives are saying these days. But I've had enough of broad brushes, no matter who's doing the tarring and who's getting feathered.

You do realize that when you guys say this stuff it hurts your credibility during actual debates, right? Or rather, you've already said this stuff enough times that you no longer have any credibility during debates, right?

Just checking.

[innerSpaceman]

Aren't they one in the same?



ETA: JW beat me to it.

[BarTopDancer]

Nope. You have ignorant morons all over the political spectrum.