War is peace

[wendybeth]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

I just adore the French.

Why, thank you.


Oh, you meant the France-French. What are we French-Americans, chopped goose liver?

[Name]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

http://www.armenians.com/asala/events.htm

On average about 2 a year.....over 60 in the last 32 years.

The country that runs and hides gets hit quite a bit more then the country that fights back.

Well, interesting, this is the first I have heard of them, just may mean one thing, I don't pay much attention to news all the time, and don't really research my smart a$$ remarks. Because where would the fun be in that.

[Not Afraid]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

Why, thank you.


Oh, you meant the France-French. What are we French-Americans, chopped goose liver?

Pate dahling. Pate.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Every attempt at this kind of regime change necessitating the rebuilding of police and military forces, has ended in failure. There's not a single example of success. I'm not holding my breath on this one.

Ummm.....Germany and Japan and Italy? Granted the start was a bit different, but everything had to be redone - military and police forces included. They seem pretty stable to me now, though they certainly weren't for quite a while.

[wendybeth]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

Pate dahling. Pate.

(I know, but I Americanised it).

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Name

Well, interesting, this is the first I have heard of them, just may mean one thing, I don't pay much attention to news all the time, and don't really research my smart a$$ remarks. Because where would the fun be in that.

Well, in all fairness most of those were small incidents nothing on the scale of the Madrid Train bombing let alone 9-11.

I would also like to back pedal a little here about the French. I was participating in the popular stereotyping of this country as a run away and hide society and history proves this to be a falsehood. They have spilled more blood then Americans throughout their history so to call them chickens and such really is not very respectfull. I will try to refrain from doing this in the future(but I am still gonna call my roast beef on a hoagy roll an American Dip )

[wendybeth]

Would you like a side of Freedom Fries with that, Sleepy?

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

Would you like a side of Freedom Fries with that, Sleepy?

...always

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

I just adore the French.

That's spiffy-

Did you know that they are just outright kicking Islamo-radicals out of the country? (not that I mind that)

-- In many countries of Europe, former inmates of the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, have been relishing their freedom. In Spain, Denmark and Britain, recently released detainees have railed in public about their treatment at Guantanamo, winning sympathy from local politicians and newspapers. In Sweden, the government has agreed to help one Guantanamo veteran sue his American captors for damages.

Not so in France, where four prisoners from the U.S. naval base were arrested as soon as they arrived home in July, and haven't been heard from since. Under French law, they could remain locked up for as long as three years while authorities decide whether to put them on trial -- a legal limbo that their attorneys charge is not much different than what they faced at Guantanamo.

Armed with some of the strictest anti-terrorism laws and policies in Europe, the French government has aggressively targeted Islamic radicals and other people deemed a potential terrorist threat. While other Western countries debate the proper balance between security and individual rights, France has experienced scant public dissent over tactics that would be controversial, if not illegal, in the United States and some other countries.

France has embraced a law enforcement strategy that relies heavily on preemptive arrests, ethnic profiling and an efficient domestic intelligence-gathering network. French anti-terrorism prosecutors and investigators are among the most powerful in Europe, backed by laws that allow them to interrogate suspects for days without interference from defense attorneys

Link

So, shall we go on about how horrible our inability to take tweezers on airplanes? Or shall we go ahead and model ourselves more like the French?

[Nephythys]

On second thought- maybe we should!

The French actualy have a fairly bloody history- their national anthem is full of violent imagery and their willingness to die for their country and people-

I don't dislike the French- and plan to go to Paris as soon as I can.....but in the name of reasonable discourse- let's face facts, that they are doing the same things or even more- than we are here.....that so many people complain about.