What's an antiquated programmer to do? - Page 7

scaeagles · 07-07-2006, 06:38 AM

Absolutely. I've decided that today I'm going to send off an email to my contact asking for specifics of an offer, for confirmation of a certain amount of flexibility in the work schedule, their approval of continuing a small amount of contract work for my current client on the side, understanding of my desire to keep coaching....all that.

One advantage is I know the guy who will be hiring me pretty well both personally and professionally. His integrity is unquestionable. I also considermyself relatively perceptive, and I met and observed a whole lot of people. They were all....happy. I don't think they could all be that good of actors.

Moonliner · 07-07-2006, 07:17 AM

It could be a cult.

Andrew · 07-07-2006, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

It could be a cult.

If they ask you to shave your head, run.

Motorboat Cruiser · 07-07-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

They were all....happy.

Because they all had a shiny new toaster strategically located at arms reach. I predict you will go far at this new job. I also predict there will be more sphinter reconstruction as a result.

I will miss the daily sharing of "knowledge" that you bless us with however. I wonder if we can get Scott McClellan to sign up and fill the void.

Seriously though, I really hope it all works out well for you.

scaeagles · 07-07-2006, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

It could be a cult.

Hmmm...come to think of it, they were all wearing long flowing white robes, and called their CEO "Baba Richard". I gotta learn to pick up on these subtle clues more quickly.

Not Afraid · 07-07-2006, 11:20 AM

The only thing I have to add is, make sure this is something you really want to do. If you have doubts, don't do it - unless you are desparate. I've taken a position in the past that I had my ddoubts about - but couldn't resist the pay - and ended up not happy. Happy is good.

scaeagles · 07-07-2006, 11:26 AM

I don't do what I currently do because I enjoy it. I do it because there is nothing like being your own boss. What I do is stagnant and boring.

Learning something new while being paid is exciting. And the work seems interesting and challanging. But I hear you.

Not Afraid · 07-07-2006, 11:29 AM

Every job has one drawback or another. I love what I do 90% of the time but I miss the big salary and it can be a PITA on holidays. But, it makes me happy. That became a priority for me in the last couple of years.

scaeagles · 07-11-2006, 11:27 AM

Have an official offer as of this morning. Not quite the level of pay I was expecting, but I understand why. It's an issue of a complete lack of knowledge of anything they work with vs. 16 years of practical experience in the business world. It's about 10% lower than market value in what I am experienced in, but 40% higher than someone coming in as a complete newby.

However, they recognize my experience in the real world of business and consulting, so they are willing to review my salary every three months during the first two years and increase based on performance. I can live with that, because I learn well.

Even with that, the offer is at almost exactly what I am making with my currently trimmed hours in consulting. No job insecurity. Only a chance for increased pay. No move necessary. Learning new stuff. Able to support my former job for a limited number of hours per month (which is a nice addition to my salary). Able to coach.

So why am I hesitating? I am concentrating way too much on giving up what I have now in terms of working at home. Time to grow up, I suppose. After ten years of doing that, though, it's going to be a difficult adjustment.

Sigh. I old them I'd let them know by Friday.

wendybeth · 07-11-2006, 11:30 AM

Take the job. Wow them with your abilities, then hit them up for a raise when you've shown your stuff. Congrats- it sounds like a good one!

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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Absolutely. I've decided that today I'm going to send off an email to my contact asking for specifics of an offer, for confirmation of a certain amount of flexibility in the work schedule, their approval of continuing a small amount of contract work for my current client on the side, understanding of my desire to keep coaching....all that. One advantage is I know the guy who will be hiring me pretty well both personally and professionally. His integrity is unquestionable. I also considermyself relatively perceptive, and I met and observed a whole lot of people. They were all....happy. I don't think they could all be that good of actors.
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Moonliner 8/30/14 - Disneyland -10k or Bust. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,022	It could be a cult. __________________ - Taking it one step at a time.
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Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	The only thing I have to add is, make sure this is something you really want to do. If you have doubts, don't do it - unless you are desparate. I've taken a position in the past that I had my ddoubts about - but couldn't resist the pay - and ended up not happy. Happy is good.
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07-07-2006, 11:26 AM	#67
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I don't do what I currently do because I enjoy it. I do it because there is nothing like being your own boss. What I do is stagnant and boring. Learning something new while being paid is exciting. And the work seems interesting and challanging. But I hear you.
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07-07-2006, 11:29 AM	#68
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	Every job has one drawback or another. I love what I do 90% of the time but I miss the big salary and it can be a PITA on holidays. But, it makes me happy. That became a priority for me in the last couple of years.
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07-11-2006, 11:27 AM	#69
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Have an official offer as of this morning. Not quite the level of pay I was expecting, but I understand why. It's an issue of a complete lack of knowledge of anything they work with vs. 16 years of practical experience in the business world. It's about 10% lower than market value in what I am experienced in, but 40% higher than someone coming in as a complete newby. However, they recognize my experience in the real world of business and consulting, so they are willing to review my salary every three months during the first two years and increase based on performance. I can live with that, because I learn well. Even with that, the offer is at almost exactly what I am making with my currently trimmed hours in consulting. No job insecurity. Only a chance for increased pay. No move necessary. Learning new stuff. Able to support my former job for a limited number of hours per month (which is a nice addition to my salary). Able to coach. So why am I hesitating? I am concentrating way too much on giving up what I have now in terms of working at home. Time to grow up, I suppose. After ten years of doing that, though, it's going to be a difficult adjustment. Sigh. I old them I'd let them know by Friday. Last edited by scaeagles : 07-11-2006 at 11:32 AM.
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07-11-2006, 11:30 AM	#70
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	Take the job. Wow them with your abilities, then hit them up for a raise when you've shown your stuff. Congrats- it sounds like a good one! __________________
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