All About McCain

[tracilicious]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Um not sure what you are getting at here; I was saying the media will "discover" some bit of shocking news right before the election(just like they have in at least the past two elections) and you ask if I am for real

I'll bold the part I'm in disbelief at.

Btw: The media has shown that they will indeed "uncover" some story that can't be proved right before the eleciton......I'd bet money on it....thankfully, the public is quite use to it now and unless they really can prove it they won't fall for it.

What's McCain/Palin lying(not that I am conceding that) on stage at the convention got to do with what I said

Do you deny that they lied? It's not hard to find the transcripts.

[scaeagles]

Why do you hate Cheney? Please don't answer - it is intended as rhetorical. I ask because I know he is one reason that you hate the Bush administration.

Cheney, like Palin, is a counselor to the President. Someone who, yes indeed, needs to be ready, and I truly do not think it is going to take long for her to be so. McCain has chosen someone who I view to be anti corruption and a solid conservative. It encourages me, just as if he had chosen Leiberman, whom I respect immensely but is no conservative, would discourage me. I suspect Obama will surround himself with liberals. This helps be believe that McCain will surround himself with conservatives.

In terms of capability, I also do not think Obama is capable to do the things he will have to do if elected from day one. So to me, the issue of doubting readiness of Palin vs. doubting the readiness of Obama is a slam dunk in favor of voting McCain.

[Strangler Lewis]

I'd like to think I could stop--or preempt--my high school kids from doing some of the things the article says they do habitually, but that road lies ahead.

Also, if the article is true, then Track's military engagement has been presented in a false light, i.e., that he's answering the call to service and putting "country first" as opposed to being dumped there so someone could get him under control.

I assume that once it's revealed that it's all true, Palin will adjust her stance and say something like, "He had to join up to become a man," and all the solid citizens with pregnant teen daughters and out of control sons will nod knowingly and give her a pass on that, too--the same pass they probably wouldn't give a black family in the same position.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

all the solid citizens with pregnant teen daughters and out of control sons will nod knowingly and give her a pass on that, too--the same pass they probably wouldn't give a black family in the same position.

Why did this turn to racism? You could have stopped at the giving them a pass, but then had to make the implication that conservatives are racists, and I find that offensive.

[Alex]

It sheds light. It doesn't seem particularly rational to me in that the logic seems very circular (I like her therefore I like her), but I do understand where you're coming from.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

[sleepyjeff]

^That was funny I hate to admit

[Strangler Lewis]

I certainly don't think all conservatives are racist. However, the breakdown of the black family is viewed as a major social problem, a root cause of black crime--toughness on crime being more of a conservative issue--and a problem that blacks are expected to fix themselves.

I said it before, if it came out that right after the Democratic convention that Barack Obama had a teen daughter pregnant by a boyfriend who talked tough in a black way on his MySpace page, or that he had a hypothetical teen son who smoked crack, I doubt that all the Republican grandmothers who were sympathetic to Bristol's human plight at the Republican convention would have said similarly nice and forgiving things about Obama's family.

And we know that O'Reilly, Hannity, etc. wouldn't have.

[JWBear]

A lot of the conservative base is racist (among other things).

[innerSpaceman]

Really, scaeagles. Know the company you keep. Conservatives have made themselves infamous for being racist. Don't blame the rest of the world for noticing it ... or the rank hypocrisy that's greeted Palin's family problems by the Republican base.