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Old 10-05-2005, 11:35 AM   #71
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Aw Leo- it's just the double standard- we can't mention Clinton, but they can bash us back to Nixon.
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Old 10-05-2005, 11:52 AM   #72
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Old 10-05-2005, 12:54 PM   #73
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Hey now- menopause is no fun- take my word for it!
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Old 10-05-2005, 03:59 PM   #74
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I don't EVER see anything in the current world being blamed on Nixon.

Yes, Tricky Dick will be referred to for eons as the man who most disgraced the Oval Office, but he is never blamed for the state of current affairs.



Naming every single scandal DeLay-gate or the like is NOT akin to blaming Nixon for all those scandals, but it IS admitting that Nixon's Watergate is the mother of every subsequent political and criminal scandal of our nation.




(We will go as far back as Regan to blame current affairs on Republican presidents.)
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:11 PM   #75
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So this means that Clinton is fair game as well.

The thing is you have to go back many years to discuss where we currently are today. How many years? I don't know. But I think discussing Reagan and what he did is perfectly relevant in looking at the world of today, as is discussing Clinton. I think Carter is relevant in looking at the current state of the Islamic world as well.

So I have no problem when GC points out that Bush and/or Cheney pointed out the Reagan erred in pulling out of Beirut. It was a huge blunder. So were the other items he mentioned attributable to Clinton.

Clinton wasn't in office that long ago. In the world of today, we must examine his policies, successes, and blunders as well.
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Old 10-05-2005, 05:57 PM   #76
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Absolutely. Blame most of the world on Clinton, if you feel it's appropriate. But don't blame Bush on Clinton. No one there to blame but him and his puppetmasters.
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ISM, my comment was meant as a joke-not a reflection on current events
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I don't blame Bush on Clinton. I have expressed my concerns about Bush, and they are most certainly not as extensive as the with the great majority of LoTers.

I think many here are oversensitive to the name Clinton. If something is brought up about how his administration handled something and how that affects the circumstances of the current administration, it is typically met with a response of "stop bringing Clinton into it" rather than examining to see if it may be a valid point.
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Okay, I ran a search on 'Clinton' and I got this: Clinton

I'm guessing that at least 9/10th's of the references to him are along the line of "Oh yeah? Well, Clinton did it/blew it/didn't do it (ad nauseum) first!" It just reminds me of little kids narking on others to get the blame off themselves. If it's a valid comment, I'll try and take it into consideration, but too often it's just passing the blame.
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