Fall MouseAdventure -- October 14, 2007 - Page 8

innerSpaceman · 08-09-2007, 09:49 AM

Just my opinion, but what would have been nicer ... and come off less like gouging ... would be to have the Mixer, with the Koenig "entertainment" provided gratis (as part of your $75 registration fee), and refreshments offered for profit sales.

That way, socializing could be part of the already-paid-for experience, the hour of waiting for results could be improved at no additional cost, and Disney and MousePlanet could share plenty of profit on food and drink purchased, optionally, by participants

katiesue · 08-09-2007, 09:58 AM

But the way it generally works for space rentals is that you have to purchase the overpriced food from Disney (or whomever you're renting from). They completly jack the price up and they usually charge per/person. If you had cookies out and were charging $5 each no one would be buying them. Then MP would have to either eat the cost or add it into the registration fees.

I actually think this was a good compromise.

Stan4dSteph · 08-09-2007, 10:10 AM

Exactly.

Katiesue, I hope you have a good time at the mixer. It sounds like David Koenig has some fun stuff planned!

I really really want to come to MA, but I'm not sure if I can fit it in. I've got a lot going on this fall.

Kevy Baby · 08-09-2007, 10:24 AM

Heck, they should just make the whole thing for free - no one should be allowed to make any money of of my fun!

innerSpaceman · 08-09-2007, 10:58 AM

Jeebus, I'm just tired of things that used to be free costing money because some greedy people (not accusing MousePlanet alone) want to make money off of stuff they used to provide for free.

We're all dickwads, by the way, for buying so much water. The free water from our taps is better than 98% of bottled water sold.

Disney charges $2 a bottle for the "Dasani" water that is simply the tap water offered free from not-enough fountains put in plastic bottles made from petroleum.

Not Afraid · 08-09-2007, 11:03 AM

Steve, why is it you just cannot be positive about things? MA is fun and a bunch of us are going to have fun doing it. $75 is NOTHING. Not a big deal. These arguments just seems like unwarranted distraction to me - especially coming from you who doesn't have to pay for the event.

innerSpaceman · 08-09-2007, 11:15 AM

That's why is important for ME to speak for principled standards. If I were paying, my gripes could seem like self-interest. I have no such self-interest. I play for FREE.

So when the price of the complete event runs $95 - sure it's less expensive than a pair of shoes - but it's alarming to me nonetheless - and the curmudgeon in me feels compelled to point out that if they sell out at a hundred per team, it will be a hundred fifty next time. Mark my curmudgeonly words.

And we'll have to play mouseadventure in the snow.

barefoot.

BarTopDancer · 08-09-2007, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Just my opinion, but what would have been nicer ... and come off less like gouging ... would be to have the Mixer, with the Koenig "entertainment" provided gratis (as part of your $75 registration fee), and refreshments offered for profit sales.

That way, socializing could be part of the already-paid-for experience, the hour of waiting for results could be improved at no additional cost, and Disney and MousePlanet could share plenty of profit on food and drink purchased, optionally, by participants

The logistics of keeping those who paid for food and those who didn't would be a nightmare. Yes, you could use bracelets to identify who is who but served buffet style what is to stop the people who paid from giving food to those who didn't?

It's a nice idea that for those who want a mixer after the event that they have the choice to pay for and attend. We all saw what [was perceived by quite a few people] a disaster the last mixer was. How many of us were irritated that we weren't told the awards weren't starting for an hour after the mixer started? Now we are given the chance to pay to attend the mixer, or do our own thing and show up for the awards.

While *I* feel that $75 is a lot for a team (even broken down as it is) I still choose to play. And I know that MA costs a lot of money to run. This year there we have to leave right after MA - missing the mixer and the awards. I doubt I'd do the dessert mixer in the future because after running around playing MA the last thing I want to do is eat a bunch of sugar (except that one time when all we did was lounge around the Animation building and eat pixie stix).

MouseAdventure will never again be the intimate event that it was. In a way it's sad and it sucks. But we have to make the most of what we have. Because I have a feeling, that before long it will become too cost prohibitive.

Not Afraid · 08-09-2007, 11:19 AM

Sorry, but this curmudgeon is more of a wet blanket. Please don't be a drag. You can be IN Drag if you want. That would be different.

Kevy Baby · 08-09-2007, 11:20 AM

While I have not participated in in MA for a few years, it sounds to me (as an outsider) that

A) It is a better event than it used to be (I remember the awards ceremony in the picnic area where they would even allow Alex to use a bullhorn).
B) I wonder if there even would be a MA any more. Disney is not a charity. Also, they have legal obligations that they need to protect (to prevent being sued - I think we all know what a litigious society we have become). I do not fault the Mouse for protecting their interests.

08-09-2007, 09:49 AM	#71
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Just my opinion, but what would have been nicer ... and come off less like gouging ... would be to have the Mixer, with the Koenig "entertainment" provided gratis (as part of your $75 registration fee), and refreshments offered for profit sales. That way, socializing could be part of the already-paid-for experience, the hour of waiting for results could be improved at no additional cost, and Disney and MousePlanet could share plenty of profit on food and drink purchased, optionally, by participants
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08-09-2007, 09:58 AM	#72
katiesue Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,678	But the way it generally works for space rentals is that you have to purchase the overpriced food from Disney (or whomever you're renting from). They completly jack the price up and they usually charge per/person. If you had cookies out and were charging $5 each no one would be buying them. Then MP would have to either eat the cost or add it into the registration fees. I actually think this was a good compromise. __________________ My life is so exciting I can hardly stand it.
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08-09-2007, 10:10 AM	#73
Stan4dSteph Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,156	Exactly. Katiesue, I hope you have a good time at the mixer. It sounds like David Koenig has some fun stuff planned! I really really want to come to MA, but I'm not sure if I can fit it in. I've got a lot going on this fall.
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08-09-2007, 10:24 AM	#74
Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	Heck, they should just make the whole thing for free - no one should be allowed to make any money of of my fun! __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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08-09-2007, 10:58 AM	#75
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Jeebus, I'm just tired of things that used to be free costing money because some greedy people (not accusing MousePlanet alone) want to make money off of stuff they used to provide for free. We're all dickwads, by the way, for buying so much water. The free water from our taps is better than 98% of bottled water sold. Disney charges $2 a bottle for the "Dasani" water that is simply the tap water offered free from not-enough fountains put in plastic bottles made from petroleum.
	Submit to Quotes

08-09-2007, 11:03 AM	#76
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	Steve, why is it you just cannot be positive about things? MA is fun and a bunch of us are going to have fun doing it. $75 is NOTHING. Not a big deal. These arguments just seems like unwarranted distraction to me - especially coming from you who doesn't have to pay for the event.
	Submit to Quotes

08-09-2007, 11:15 AM	#77
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	That's why is important for ME to speak for principled standards. If I were paying, my gripes could seem like self-interest. I have no such self-interest. I play for FREE. So when the price of the complete event runs $95 - sure it's less expensive than a pair of shoes - but it's alarming to me nonetheless - and the curmudgeon in me feels compelled to point out that if they sell out at a hundred per team, it will be a hundred fifty next time. Mark my curmudgeonly words. And we'll have to play mouseadventure in the snow. barefoot.
	Submit to Quotes

08-09-2007, 11:19 AM	#79
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	Sorry, but this curmudgeon is more of a wet blanket. Please don't be a drag. You can be IN Drag if you want. That would be different.
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08-09-2007, 11:20 AM	#80
Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	While I have not participated in in MA for a few years, it sounds to me (as an outsider) that A) It is a better event than it used to be (I remember the awards ceremony in the picnic area where they would even allow Alex to use a bullhorn). B) I wonder if there even would be a MA any more. Disney is not a charity. Also, they have legal obligations that they need to protect (to prevent being sued - I think we all know what a litigious society we have become). I do not fault the Mouse for protecting their interests. __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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