Political Persuasion- how did you get there? - Page 4

€uroMeinke · 10-18-2006, 10:24 PM

Ah, but I love the burnt pieces

tracilicious · 10-18-2006, 11:16 PM

This is an interesting thread to me, as I'm trying to figure the whole politics thing out. As Alex pointed out, the religion of my birth prohibits political opinions/discussion and participation. However, I believe that to be a load of crap, as people are obviously going to have opinions regardless of whether they qualify their statements with, "even though I'm politically neutral."

So, I'll say my dad is conservative, and my mom is liberal. I'm sure I'm far more to the liberal side, but I really don't have a clue as to what that means, except that I usually agree with dems when opinions are stated.

I really couldn't care less about politics mostly, but it's come to my attention that there are certain local propositions that I actually care about. THings that could potentially make a difference in the community. I.e, pigs that can't stand up, or tax reductions that mean no more free museum days, etc. However, I'm not even sure when voting is, or where one goes for that sort of thing. So we'll see what happens.

Motorboat Cruiser · 10-19-2006, 01:35 AM

I've never considered myself a democrat or a republican. Kerry was the first democrat I ever voted for and I wasn't pleased about it. I wan't pleased that I had to choose between him and Bush. I wasn't pleased that he was the best the dems could come up with. As Lewis Black says, "It was like choosing between two bowls of sh*t. The only difference was the smell."

My problem isn't with republicans, per se. It is with those that cannot see how horrible this current administration is. I truly believe that this administration are going to leave the world in much worse shape than how they found it and that we have to put a stop to it. If all we have to look forward to from the republicans is eight more years of the crap we have seen, then they will not get my vote. If I hear one that has some decent ideas on how to fix this mess we are in, I will listen to what they have to say. I will hold the democratic candidate to the same standard.

I want to hear solutions, not lies and distortions and spin. I want someone more interested in education than gay marriage. I want someone who understands fiscal management and foreign policy. I want someone who will project an image of the United States to the world that I can be proud of, not someone who comes off like an ignorant bully gunslinger. I want someone who can speak, who can motivate, who can exude confidence and strength without making idle threats.

Whichever candidate comes closer to matching this profile, democrat or repulican or other, will get my vote.

Nephythys · 10-19-2006, 07:31 AM

I wanted to say thanks for making this thread interesting-

Seeing as I am the OP- I will say that I do not oppose civil discussion or debate if you will- in regards to certain views or how and why people hold them.

If we can't challenge each other with civility- it's just not as much fun.

Ghoulish Delight · 10-19-2006, 11:29 AM

Despite the OP's blessing, I'd rather that this thread NOT turn into a forum to butt heads the way the religious thread did. We have plenty of other active discussions that challenge each other's beliefs and perspectives, it'd be nice to have one where people can just express them without expecting a debate.

sleepyjeff · 10-19-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Despite the OP's blessing, I'd rather that this thread NOT turn into a forum to butt heads the way the religious thread did. We have plenty of other active discussions that challenge each other's beliefs and perspectives, it'd be nice to have one where people can just express them without expecting a debate.

Hear, Hear!

Strangler Lewis · 10-19-2006, 11:43 AM

There's a bright golden haze on the meadow . . .

Nephythys · 10-19-2006, 11:43 AM

Ok-

Though I think one would have to be blindly naive to think that telling people they support or are '"evil" for their politics doesn't demand a response.

Maybe there should be less moral judgements- and more sticking to the topic of what you believe politically and why- without pointing fingers.

Right?

Ghoulish Delight · 10-19-2006, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

Though I think one would have to be blindly naive to think that telling people they support or are '"evil" for their politics doesn't demand a response.

Don't worry, I'm sure iSm will happily oblige go call you evil at a future date in another thread.

I'm not proposing to ban all response and debate, and this wasn't an aministrative warning. Just a request to keep it to a minimum so as not to discourage people from sharing their own political histories, which is what I open this thread to find.

Nephythys · 10-19-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Don't worry, I'm sure iSm will happily oblige go call you evil at a future date in another thread.

I'm not proposing to ban all response and debate, and this wasn't an aministrative warning. Just a request to keep it to a minimum so as not to discourage people from sharing their own political histories, which is what I open this thread to find.

heh-

no doubt.

Works for me- thanks!

10-18-2006, 10:24 PM	#1
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10-18-2006, 11:16 PM	#2
tracilicious avatar transition Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in-between Posts: 2,487	This is an interesting thread to me, as I'm trying to figure the whole politics thing out. As Alex pointed out, the religion of my birth prohibits political opinions/discussion and participation. However, I believe that to be a load of crap, as people are obviously going to have opinions regardless of whether they qualify their statements with, "even though I'm politically neutral." So, I'll say my dad is conservative, and my mom is liberal. I'm sure I'm far more to the liberal side, but I really don't have a clue as to what that means, except that I usually agree with dems when opinions are stated. I really couldn't care less about politics mostly, but it's come to my attention that there are certain local propositions that I actually care about. THings that could potentially make a difference in the community. I.e, pigs that can't stand up, or tax reductions that mean no more free museum days, etc. However, I'm not even sure when voting is, or where one goes for that sort of thing. So we'll see what happens. __________________ And now Harry, let us step into the night and pursue that flighty temptress, adventure! - Albus Dumbledore
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10-19-2006, 01:35 AM	#3
Motorboat Cruiser Cruiser of Motorboats Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,665	I've never considered myself a democrat or a republican. Kerry was the first democrat I ever voted for and I wasn't pleased about it. I wan't pleased that I had to choose between him and Bush. I wasn't pleased that he was the best the dems could come up with. As Lewis Black says, "It was like choosing between two bowls of sh*t. The only difference was the smell." My problem isn't with republicans, per se. It is with those that cannot see how horrible this current administration is. I truly believe that this administration are going to leave the world in much worse shape than how they found it and that we have to put a stop to it. If all we have to look forward to from the republicans is eight more years of the crap we have seen, then they will not get my vote. If I hear one that has some decent ideas on how to fix this mess we are in, I will listen to what they have to say. I will hold the democratic candidate to the same standard. I want to hear solutions, not lies and distortions and spin. I want someone more interested in education than gay marriage. I want someone who understands fiscal management and foreign policy. I want someone who will project an image of the United States to the world that I can be proud of, not someone who comes off like an ignorant bully gunslinger. I want someone who can speak, who can motivate, who can exude confidence and strength without making idle threats. Whichever candidate comes closer to matching this profile, democrat or repulican or other, will get my vote.
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10-19-2006, 07:31 AM	#4
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	I wanted to say thanks for making this thread interesting- Seeing as I am the OP- I will say that I do not oppose civil discussion or debate if you will- in regards to certain views or how and why people hold them. If we can't challenge each other with civility- it's just not as much fun.
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10-19-2006, 11:29 AM	#5
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Despite the OP's blessing, I'd rather that this thread NOT turn into a forum to butt heads the way the religious thread did. We have plenty of other active discussions that challenge each other's beliefs and perspectives, it'd be nice to have one where people can just express them without expecting a debate. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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