did John Kerry just call soldiers stupid? - Page 16

Nephythys · 11-03-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tramspotter

Like this

John should have listend to him.

Wow- and one video links to another and another. Guess it's just more dolts who did not "get" the joke.

wendybeth · 11-03-2006, 09:37 PM

I could post a bazillion links to soldiers and relatives of soldiers who are mad as hell at the way things are going and it wouldn't change the warhawks attitudes one bit, pretty much like your links won't change mine. I wish you could summon up some of that outrage at things that are really hurting people, but I am not going to hold my breath.

Motorboat Cruiser · 11-03-2006, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

Wow- and one video links to another and another. Guess it's just more dolts who did not "get" the joke.

Do we know how these soldiers even heard about this story? Perhaps their only source was from the likes of Fox News. I know if that were my only source, I would have been misled as well, as to the context of his words.

Nephythys · 11-04-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

Do we know how these soldiers even heard about this story? Perhaps their only source was from the likes of Fox News. I know if that were my only source, I would have been misled as well, as to the context of his words.

Sure. That's it. Can't be their honest reactions- NOPE- it's the evil Fox spin machine.

Motorboat Cruiser · 11-04-2006, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

Sure. That's it. Can't be their honest reactions- NOPE- it's the evil Fox spin machine.

I'm sure it is their honest reaction. Never suggested otherwise. I just find their outrage puzzling, being that Kerry never used the word "troops" at all and wasn't talking about them. If you listened solely to Fox News though, you probably wouldn't know that. Seems like a possible explanation for their outrage to me.

But we've been over this already.

JWBear · 11-03-2006, 10:28 PM

I'm still waiting for an explanation of what was offensive in what Kerry said. Please... Someone.... I just don't get it.

wendybeth · 11-03-2006, 11:01 PM

I think you have to first listen to Hannity, Rush and then read the Drudge Report. Then, when you start feeling cranky, drop a bowling ball on your left foot. At that point, you should have the edited version of Kerry's statement at hand, and once you read it you will .....

.....probably be too nice of a guy to get the outrage. You'll just be irritated that you spent an hour of your life in such a meaningless and eventually painful manner.

scaeagles · 11-04-2006, 06:59 AM

I find this all to be very amusing. It's politics. Politics is spin. Remember Trent Lott? All he did was praise an old man at his birthday party and it became just as big if not bigger than this. That was all about spin. However, when Robert Byrd a while later used the N word a few times in an interview, well, he was just tired.

Someone says something. It can be interpretted in different ways (and as I have said, I can see it being interpretted as meaning soldiers are stupid, but I don't interpret it that way). So of course political enemies are going to spin it to their advantage.

Wow....words in politics being said to have a different meaning than intended. I'm shocked.

Moonliner · 11-04-2006, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I find this all to be very amusing. It's politics. Politics is spin. Remember Trent Lott? All he did was praise an old man at his birthday party and it became just as big if not bigger than this. That was all about spin. However, when Robert Byrd a while later used the N word a few times in an interview, well, he was just tired.

Someone says something. It can be interpretted in different ways (and as I have said, I can see it being interpretted as meaning soldiers are stupid, but I don't interpret it that way). So of course political enemies are going to spin it to their advantage.

Wow....words in politics being said to have a different meaning than intended. I'm shocked.

Damn, I hate it when Scaeagles is right but I have to admit he has a point. All this brouhaha over a few silly words is taking the focus off the real issues.

A president that lies, violates the constitution of the United States, is responsible for starting the only war of aggression in the modern history of the US, and most importantly is personally responsable for the deaths of over 3,000 coalition soldiers. Thanks Leo for keeping us all focused.

Not Afraid · 11-04-2006, 10:39 AM

I think Leo's got it in the bag.

11-03-2006, 09:37 PM	#2
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	I could post a bazillion links to soldiers and relatives of soldiers who are mad as hell at the way things are going and it wouldn't change the warhawks attitudes one bit, pretty much like your links won't change mine. I wish you could summon up some of that outrage at things that are really hurting people, but I am not going to hold my breath. __________________
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JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	I'm still waiting for an explanation of what was offensive in what Kerry said. Please... Someone.... I just don't get it. __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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11-03-2006, 11:01 PM	#7
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	I think you have to first listen to Hannity, Rush and then read the Drudge Report. Then, when you start feeling cranky, drop a bowling ball on your left foot. At that point, you should have the edited version of Kerry's statement at hand, and once you read it you will ..... .....probably be too nice of a guy to get the outrage. You'll just be irritated that you spent an hour of your life in such a meaningless and eventually painful manner. __________________
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11-04-2006, 06:59 AM	#8
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I find this all to be very amusing. It's politics. Politics is spin. Remember Trent Lott? All he did was praise an old man at his birthday party and it became just as big if not bigger than this. That was all about spin. However, when Robert Byrd a while later used the N word a few times in an interview, well, he was just tired. Someone says something. It can be interpretted in different ways (and as I have said, I can see it being interpretted as meaning soldiers are stupid, but I don't interpret it that way). So of course political enemies are going to spin it to their advantage. Wow....words in politics being said to have a different meaning than intended. I'm shocked.
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11-04-2006, 10:39 AM	#10
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	I think Leo's got it in the bag.
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