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[Not Afraid]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Of course there is always one other solution- you find the medical plans better somewhere else- move there

Why would anyone choose to move when the problem is a fixable one - if only people would get off their partisan asses and admit there is a problem? That's a silly "solution".

[tracilicious]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

so- in your example you would choose to sit around and do nothing about a possible health risk because you did not have insurance?

You assume incompetence on the part of the medical community who will see you so you just don't go?

No, in that scenario I don't have the money to pay a Dermatologist $200 to look at my possibly suspicious mole. I don't think you can go to a doctor anymore and say, "bill me later," when you don't have insurance. They expect payment. Poor people don't always have credit cards, I suppose they could bounce a check but they probably can't afford the fees associated with it.

So your solution is like things or move? Is it unreasonable to expect our medical system to be on par with the rest of the world? Comparing ourselves with others is a good thing. Maybe it will motivate change.

[Kevy Baby]

Will that scenario improve under UHC? Nope (just ask a Canadian).

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

Will that scenario improve under UHC? Nope (just ask a Canadian).

Where's Jughead? Hello?

[wendybeth]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

Will that scenario improve under UHC? Nope (just ask a Canadian).

Living in the PNW, I am friends with a great many Canadians, and most I know are happy with their health system. They seem to pity us, to tell the truth.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

Living in the PNW, I am friends with a great many Canadians, and most I know are happy with their health system. They seem to pity us, to tell the truth.

My sister works at OHSU childrens hospital. Many Canadian children are there at any given time for treatment. Ancedotal, but in the very least in means the parents of these children find it preferable to travel to the US and pay out of pocket for both the health care itself and the extended lodging rather than use the "free" Canadian system.

[Kevy Baby]

I say that from experience of some friends who lived in Canada.

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

I say that from experience of some friends who lived in Canada.

otherwise known as anecdotal evidence - did one have an untreated mole that lead to a fatal cancer?

[sleepyjeff]

I don't know how things run down there in California....but up here in Portland you can't read all the way thru any of our dozen or so neighborhood weeklies without seeing at least one ad for a free medical screening...sometimes its' for skin cancer, sometimes cholesterol, diabetes, blood pressure, the list goes on and on.

[€uroMeinke]

Rhetoric aside, is this the best we can do? And if so, how do we know it? If not, what can be better? Since the Nixon Administration it seems this is something politicians always want to fix and always fail trying to fix. If we're stuck with it, what's the best way to cope? Not having savings in your name is one way.