Complaint Department - Page 3

Not Afraid · 02-15-2007, 04:51 PM

The average time the hiring person looks at a resume for the first scan is 30 seconds. Make it easy to read and scan and only talk about the thing that apply to the position you are looking at.

€uroMeinke · 02-15-2007, 05:08 PM

Re: Resumes -

The automated review of resumes has prompted the growth of resume length. In some large companies (like the one I happen to work for). Resumes are scaned, OCRed, and then key word searched to match the job criteria - the more and better buzz words you use, the better the chance of getting a "hit" so that an actual human will be engaged. So in a way two different documents are required as a "resume" 1) to pass the automated screener - common font, lots of text, no line, common bond paper (if it can be scanned it gets tossed as a paper jam); 2) A pretty, 1-page resume, with lots of white space, bullets, and texture, to present in person (or direct mailed) to the people likely to be doing the hiring. The second is probably most important, but HR has claimed often enough that the candidate inquired about "never submitted a resume." So it goes in my workplace.

Alex · 02-15-2007, 05:17 PM

At my workplace you can't even submit a paper resume. You're directed to an online form where you enter all of the information that might go on a resume. You can attach a word or PDF document of your resume but I know from experience that it is pretty much ignored (my hiring manager had never seen mine, just the online form).

€uroMeinke · 02-15-2007, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

At my workplace you can't even submit a paper resume. You're directed to an online form where you enter all of the information that might go on a resume. You can attach a word or PDF document of your resume but I know from experience that it is pretty much ignored (my hiring manager had never seen mine, just the online form).

Here too - which is why I mention option 2 has to be directly to the hiring supervisor - not into the black whole of the HR Recruiting department. The whole purpose is to get the attention of this person so if you don't show up as a candidate, they at least ask about you and possible rescue you from whatever fallout came from the HR machine. This is entirely against the published process - but it is what many of the successful candidates do.

Capt Jack · 02-15-2007, 05:56 PM

Ive always used head hunters (except the current job). Has worked out well. most of the resume is filled out during their interview, he sends a nicely formatted copy to me to carry into the job interview.

with luck I'll retire from my current gig and never have to do it again.

with even more luck this lotto ticket in my pocket will get me out of all work for...awhile.

katiesue · 02-15-2007, 08:22 PM

My last resume - and it's been 8+ years now was the old one page clear cut way. I can't tell you how many comments I got on how people liked it. I've had to look through resumes in various other lives. If I have to sift through to find the info I need, I'm not even going to bother.

bewitched · 02-15-2007, 08:33 PM

Parents who complain that one class got an extra $.05 valentine favor than the other class.

It is likely the same parents complaining that the weekly spelling words are too hard for their babies...your kids go to a frickin' private school you knew what was involved...DEAL.

BarTopDancer · 02-15-2007, 08:27 PM

Did I mention hockey teams who forget how to play hockey?

Oh wait, it's a complaint department, not a pet peeve department.

My formely first place Ducks - the team to beat - the team with the most points in the entire NHL has forgotten how to play hockey.

/sigh

katiesue · 02-15-2007, 08:38 PM

Teachers who assign 5th graders a crap load of homework nightly. Which of course I have to supervise. I made it past 5th grade I don't need to go back.

And No Child Left Behind is a bunch of hooey that creates a lot of unnecessary crap.

innerSpaceman · 02-15-2007, 10:00 PM

Uh-oh ... my resume is a full 2-pager ... and only covers my one job position (that I've had at 3 firms) over the last 20 years. But I have lots of job duties and lots of specific know-how.

In my field, lots of people claim to have the requisite skills, but often don't. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I find throwing in enough information to make it clear I know what I'm talking about makes a difference.

Still ... maybe I'll try to condense.

02-15-2007, 04:51 PM	#1
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	The average time the hiring person looks at a resume for the first scan is 30 seconds. Make it easy to read and scan and only talk about the thing that apply to the position you are looking at.
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02-15-2007, 05:08 PM	#2
€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	Re: Resumes - The automated review of resumes has prompted the growth of resume length. In some large companies (like the one I happen to work for). Resumes are scaned, OCRed, and then key word searched to match the job criteria - the more and better buzz words you use, the better the chance of getting a "hit" so that an actual human will be engaged. So in a way two different documents are required as a "resume" 1) to pass the automated screener - common font, lots of text, no line, common bond paper (if it can be scanned it gets tossed as a paper jam); 2) A pretty, 1-page resume, with lots of white space, bullets, and texture, to present in person (or direct mailed) to the people likely to be doing the hiring. The second is probably most important, but HR has claimed often enough that the candidate inquired about "never submitted a resume." So it goes in my workplace. __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
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02-15-2007, 05:17 PM	#3
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	At my workplace you can't even submit a paper resume. You're directed to an online form where you enter all of the information that might go on a resume. You can attach a word or PDF document of your resume but I know from experience that it is pretty much ignored (my hiring manager had never seen mine, just the online form).
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02-15-2007, 05:56 PM	#5
Capt Jack check your head Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,174	Ive always used head hunters (except the current job). Has worked out well. most of the resume is filled out during their interview, he sends a nicely formatted copy to me to carry into the job interview. with luck I'll retire from my current gig and never have to do it again. with even more luck this lotto ticket in my pocket will get me out of all work for...awhile. __________________ a clear conscience is a sure sign of a fuzzy memory
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02-15-2007, 08:22 PM	#6
katiesue Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,678	My last resume - and it's been 8+ years now was the old one page clear cut way. I can't tell you how many comments I got on how people liked it. I've had to look through resumes in various other lives. If I have to sift through to find the info I need, I'm not even going to bother. __________________ My life is so exciting I can hardly stand it.
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02-15-2007, 08:33 PM	#7
bewitched 101% Yummy! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I know Kung Fu. Posts: 1,413	Parents who complain that one class got an extra $.05 valentine favor than the other class. It is likely the same parents complaining that the weekly spelling words are too hard for their babies...your kids go to a frickin' private school you knew what was involved...DEAL. __________________ ~Whitney Wondering about the future of Ellington Woodard's punk@ss sh!t.
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02-15-2007, 08:27 PM	#8
BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	Did I mention hockey teams who forget how to play hockey? Oh wait, it's a complaint department, not a pet peeve department. My formely first place Ducks - the team to beat - the team with the most points in the entire NHL has forgotten how to play hockey. /sigh __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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02-15-2007, 08:38 PM	#9
katiesue Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,678	Teachers who assign 5th graders a crap load of homework nightly. Which of course I have to supervise. I made it past 5th grade I don't need to go back. And No Child Left Behind is a bunch of hooey that creates a lot of unnecessary crap. __________________ My life is so exciting I can hardly stand it.
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02-15-2007, 10:00 PM	#10
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Uh-oh ... my resume is a full 2-pager ... and only covers my one job position (that I've had at 3 firms) over the last 20 years. But I have lots of job duties and lots of specific know-how. In my field, lots of people claim to have the requisite skills, but often don't. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I find throwing in enough information to make it clear I know what I'm talking about makes a difference. Still ... maybe I'll try to condense.
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