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Ghoulish Delight · 05-17-2007, 08:00 AM

We've got Wario also. That game is crazy fun.

FEJ · 05-17-2007, 08:25 AM

I can't wait for Harry Potter!

Also Mario Party 8!

Ghoulish Delight · 05-17-2007, 08:26 AM

Have you seen Super Paper Mario?

FEJ · 05-17-2007, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Have you seen Super Paper Mario?

Not yet. Ralph Wiggum has it but I need to borrow it.

Ghoulish Delight · 05-17-2007, 08:45 AM

TV update. Picked up some component cables yesterday for the DVD player. The picture looks fantastic, but there's a problem.

The screen is 16:9. There are 4 options for the mode of display. 16:9, 4:3, "zoom1" and "zoom2". We popped in our Lord of the Rings DVD which is 1.33:1. In the standard 16:9 screen mode, the TV stretches the image. Flipped to "zoome1". That did the trick. The image wasn't stretched, nothing was cut off. It still leaves a bit of letterboxing obviously the ratio isn't exact, but that's fine.

All is good right? Well, we then put Marry Poppins in. Marry Poppins is 1.66:1. Once again, 16:9 stretches it. Switched over to Zoom1...it cuts off the top and bottom of the image

Lost was coming on, so I didn't have a whole lot of time to figure things out, but I couldn't find any way to resolve this. Are we doomed to avoid any DVD with a 1.66:1 ratio? Might there be a setting on the DVD player or perhaps some option on the TV I'm missing?

mousepod · 05-17-2007, 09:09 AM

It depends which DVD player you have. On my Oppo, for example, I have a setting called "Wide/SQZ". Since the Oppo always outputs 16:9, it will output a 16:9 image in 16:9, and will add bars to the sides of 4:3 source material, therefore always preserving the aspect ratio of the original disc.

You also might check the settings on your TV - on my Toshiba, for example, "zoom 1" stretches the picture more horizontally than vertically, so while the screen is more "filled", the AR is screwed, while "zoom 2" stretches both horizontal and vertical to the same degree, resulting in a more severe crop on the top and bottom, but still keeping the picture from appearing stretched. This works especially when an SD channel presents a widescreen movie in letterbox. The resulting zoom just gets rid of the black bars on the top and bottom.

By the way, the first edition of the Mary Poppins DVD is not anamorphic, while the current 2-Disc special edition is.

Ghoulish Delight · 05-17-2007, 09:16 AM

I'll have to check the player docs when I get home to see what it's doing and what I can change. I'm guessing it outputs at 4:3, which would be why 16:9 is stretching it. Both zoom1 and zoom2 on the TV seem to be simply scaled up 4:3, with zoom2 just being a closer zoom. With the 1.33:1 it works great since the smaller aspect still doesn't fill the screen at zoom1. But with the 1.66:1, it zooms in too much, cutting off a good inch from top and bottom.

Hopefully I'll be able to find some config options on the player. If not, I guess we'll be watching Marry Poppins on 4:3 (ugh) and joining :ism: and become aspect-ratio-snobs.

Or buy a new DVD player....

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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Have you seen Super Paper Mario? __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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05-17-2007, 08:45 AM	#5
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	TV update. Picked up some component cables yesterday for the DVD player. The picture looks fantastic, but there's a problem. The screen is 16:9. There are 4 options for the mode of display. 16:9, 4:3, "zoom1" and "zoom2". We popped in our Lord of the Rings DVD which is 1.33:1. In the standard 16:9 screen mode, the TV stretches the image. Flipped to "zoome1". That did the trick. The image wasn't stretched, nothing was cut off. It still leaves a bit of letterboxing obviously the ratio isn't exact, but that's fine. All is good right? Well, we then put Marry Poppins in. Marry Poppins is 1.66:1. Once again, 16:9 stretches it. Switched over to Zoom1...it cuts off the top and bottom of the image Lost was coming on, so I didn't have a whole lot of time to figure things out, but I couldn't find any way to resolve this. Are we doomed to avoid any DVD with a 1.66:1 ratio? Might there be a setting on the DVD player or perhaps some option on the TV I'm missing? __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ Last edited by Ghoulish Delight : 05-17-2007 at 08:57 AM.
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05-17-2007, 09:09 AM	#6
mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	It depends which DVD player you have. On my Oppo, for example, I have a setting called "Wide/SQZ". Since the Oppo always outputs 16:9, it will output a 16:9 image in 16:9, and will add bars to the sides of 4:3 source material, therefore always preserving the aspect ratio of the original disc. You also might check the settings on your TV - on my Toshiba, for example, "zoom 1" stretches the picture more horizontally than vertically, so while the screen is more "filled", the AR is screwed, while "zoom 2" stretches both horizontal and vertical to the same degree, resulting in a more severe crop on the top and bottom, but still keeping the picture from appearing stretched. This works especially when an SD channel presents a widescreen movie in letterbox. The resulting zoom just gets rid of the black bars on the top and bottom. By the way, the first edition of the Mary Poppins DVD is not anamorphic, while the current 2-Disc special edition is. __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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05-17-2007, 09:16 AM	#7
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I'll have to check the player docs when I get home to see what it's doing and what I can change. I'm guessing it outputs at 4:3, which would be why 16:9 is stretching it. Both zoom1 and zoom2 on the TV seem to be simply scaled up 4:3, with zoom2 just being a closer zoom. With the 1.33:1 it works great since the smaller aspect still doesn't fill the screen at zoom1. But with the 1.66:1, it zooms in too much, cutting off a good inch from top and bottom. Hopefully I'll be able to find some config options on the player. If not, I guess we'll be watching Marry Poppins on 4:3 (ugh) and joining :ism: and become aspect-ratio-snobs. Or buy a new DVD player.... __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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