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Old 06-06-2007, 04:13 PM   #1
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I ask you what would be some pitfalls of openly gay servicemen? And if you can identify any, how do you feel they should be alleviated without disruption.
It's an irrelevant question. What are some pitfalls of black servicemen? What are some pitfalls of really horny straight servicemen? What are some pitfalls of short servicemen? What are some pitfalls of servicewomen? What are some pitfalls of a half Italian, half German, American born serviceman named Klaus O'mally (the Italian side lived in Ireland for a couple generations and changed the name to assimilate) who's got one really short pinky toe and likes to collect baseball cards?

Who gives a crap if there are particulars that need to be figured out. Discrimination is discrimination and inviting people to start debating the minutia of exactly how to fix the moral outrage that is discrimination has no place in a discussion about whether to do away with said discrimination.
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Old 06-06-2007, 07:55 PM   #2
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It's an irrelevant question. What are some pitfalls of black servicemen? What are some pitfalls of really horny straight servicemen? What are some pitfalls of short servicemen? What are some pitfalls of servicewomen? What are some pitfalls of a half Italian, half German, American born serviceman named Klaus O'mally (the Italian side lived in Ireland for a couple generations and changed the name to assimilate) who's got one really short pinky toe and likes to collect baseball cards?

Who gives a crap if there are particulars that need to be figured out. Discrimination is discrimination and inviting people to start debating the minutia of exactly how to fix the moral outrage that is discrimination has no place in a discussion about whether to do away with said discrimination.
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:27 PM   #3
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Since you are for the most part preaching to the quire here ....
Why would one attempt to preach to a sheaf of paper?
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But GC... Those fine, upstanding, defenders of morality and The American Way have a duty to protect our poor innocent troops from limp-wristed perverts who will ogle men in the showers and turn straight boys towards sexual degeneracy.






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Old 06-06-2007, 04:08 PM   #6
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But GC... Those fine, upstanding, defenders of morality and The American Way have a duty to protect our poor innocent troops from limp-wristed perverts who will ogle men in the showers and turn straight boys towards sexual degeneracy.



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Old 06-06-2007, 04:29 PM   #7
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I'm just kind of annoyed with myself at the moment. Anything and everything I write just seems painfully obvious to me, so I keep backspacing it.

Out of the interest of my sanity, I'll just say for now that I agree wholeheartedly with GD - and furthermore - no first step when it comes to civil rights comes without opposition. Just as many were aghast when blacks and women began serving in the military, there will be many that are now. (again, obvious)

You also allude to the VFW likely not willing to accept gays. I'm not entirely sure why you chose them, since they aren't the ones who even need to be concerned with the sexual preferences of those out on the battlefield. I also tend to think that my views, and the views of a majority of the last couple of generations differ vastly from the views of the octogenarian set. I don't think anywhere in a repeal of the DADT policy is there the option for a soldier to behave out of order, whether he or she is straight, gay, or somewhere in between... so I guess I'm just not seeing the problem.
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